Mestizo (what's your dang ol' name man?),

I am NOT looking for a DELUX. I WANT the PREMIUM.

What I was saying was that in my area there are NO PREMIUMS, which I hate, they are all DELUX.

And for the manual:

I have a bad knee (football) and plus I drive roughly 40-55miles a DAY! 30 of these miles are on the freeway, there is no way I am going stick in my situation as it sits right now! When that 07 Cobra comes out, now that will be my stick toy, if ya' dig me! lol.

 

Ok, so your getting greedy like me.

The only I reason I said deluxe is because there's no way you can get an 04, for under 20K. Actually I take that back I saw an 04 with 2K for 19,995.

So if you want premium, checking the used market will probably be your best route(you've pretty much said that all along).

As far as the manual, I have a friend with a bad knee also, and the GT's clutch wasn't too rough on his knee. He said that since the clutch wasn't raised high above the floor it spared him the pain.

Of course your knee could be different.

 

Really? I drove my dad's Toyota pick-up (work truck) that was a manual, and darn that thing hurt worse than a duck in a chinese restaraunt!

so maybe I will go test drive a manual (or rent one!) to see how it feels!

 

yeah the clutch is very light in the GT. and its not like the clutch in a truck. you barely have to lift your foot to work the clutch in the mustang. not the Cobra you would be in trouble. trust me if my wife can drvie a 5 sp. im sure it wont hurt you knee too bad.

 

Just my .02...

Bought my 04GT right around christmas (spur of the moment, was a Chevy guy until now)

I got black, with grey leather, Mach stereo with 6disc changer (and SAT button if you read the satellite radio post) 5-spd, and yes i drive fasssssssssssssssssssst. So you wouldnt wanna buy one from me.

But All in all I think I paid about 25...uses less gas and goes faster than the SUV I had previously, I love that the road is now a racetrack.

 

haha,

That's pretty much is MSRP, I'm hoping to get one around invoice.......hopefully less.

Right now I'm saving up for my down payment, and I have a dilemma of this:

Ford offers 0.0% financing till Sept. 30, but I'm wondering if I can get a better deal in Oct. when MORE 05's start hitting the lots.

 

No way, where did you find the 0.0% apr at? I haven't seen commercials for that around here...!

 

I'm doubting they'll offer 0% when the 05's come out...not to mention the fed will be raising interest rates again before then. I got 1.9% thru Ford Credit on mine when I bought it last month.

 

On their website they "CLAIM" 0.0% or 1.9% w/1000 cash or $2500, and what ever rate you can obtain.

 

I'm wondering if they will offer an exclusive 0.0% on the 04's, but your probably right.

 

Find a new 03 on the lot...they're offering 4k rebates on those...or at least they were last month. I opted for the 1.9 so I didn't get the 4k.

 

is 22964 before rebate and down a good price for a competition orange 04 gt?
She lists for $24740 ..

My General Maintenance Oldsmobile is on its last legs, and I may not be able to hold out for the 05.

 

Quick question....what options are on it?

If it's a premium if you could knock off $300-$500 then it becomes a good-great deal.

If it's a deluxe keeps trying, I had a friend get a verbal $21.5 on a deluxe, and that was 3+ months ago.

Try Edmunds and carsdirect.com, and see what they have as their target price.

 

0% is available on 04 mustangs (incl Mach 1) up to 48 mo.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/incentives/offers/

 

Yea that's what I thought.

You guys think the dealers are pressured to give you a more "shafty" deal since you're choosing $2.5K or 0.0% or do you think you can get a good deal despite their offers.

 

sooooooooooo?


Vehicle Description VIN 1FAFP42X54F 164781
MUSTANG 2004 GT CPE DELUXE
4.6L 2V SOHC V-8 ENGINE
5-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Exterior COMPETITION ORANGE CLEARCOAT
Interior DARK CHARCOAL CLOTH SPORT BUCKET SEATS


Standard Equipment INCLUDED AT NO EXTRA CHARGE

EXTERIOR
. 17" ALLOY PAINTED WHEELS
. P245/45ZR17 TIRES
. REAR DECKLID SPOILER
. FRONT FOG LAMPS
. STAINLESS STEEL DUAL EXH
. DUAL POWER MIRRORS
. VARIABLE INTERVAL WIPERS
. REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER
INTERIOR
. AIR CONDITIONING
. AM/FM CD PLAYER W/CLOCK
. CLOTH BUCKET SPORT SEATS
. POWER 6-WAY DRIVERS SEAT
. SPLIT FOLD REAR SEAT
. CENTER CONSOLE W/ARMREST
. LEATHER WRAP STEERING WHL
. SPEED CONTROL/TILT WHEEL
. POWER DOOR LOCKS & WINDOWS
. DUAL VANITY MIRRORS
FUNCTIONAL
. BRAKES, POWER 4-WHEEL DISC
. POWER RACK PINION STEERING
. TRACTION-LOK AXLE
. VAR. RATE REAR SUSPENSION
. POWER POINTS (2)
SAFETY/SECURITY
. AIR BAGS, DRIV/FRONT PASS
. FRONT/REAR OUTBOARD THREE
POINT SHOULDER/LAP BELTS
. 24 HR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE
. SECURILOCK
. REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY
WARRANTY
. 3YR/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER

Price Information MSRP
STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE $23,385

Key Standard Equipment
ORDER CODE 130A-DLX GT V8
REAR SPOILER, SINGLE WING
SEAT, POWER DRIVER'S
SPEED CONTROL
AIR CONDITIONING, MANUAL
AM/FM STEREO CD W/CLOCK
WHEELS, 17" PAINTED ALLOY

Optional Equipment
2004 MODEL YEAR
COMPETITION ORANGE CLEARCOAT
DARK CHARCOAL CLOTH
.4.6L 2V SOHC V-8 ENGINE
.5-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
.P245/45ZR17 BSW TIRES
ABS BRAKING SYS/TRACTION CTRL 730
__________
TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS 24,115
DESTINATION & DELIVERY 625

TOTAL MSRP $24,740

Disclaimer: Option pricing will be blank for any item that is priced as 0 or "No Charge".

 

April....deffinetly keep trying man. Try to get that to what Matt said, 21.5K. Tell them, meet that or you walk right now...100$ says they will follow you out to your car, and offer you 21.7...then take it!

 

Since it has ABS that's an option $600-$700. So I take back, my 'it's not a good offer' statement, but I think you can do a little better.

I've been trying to find a "formula" of what you should expect to pay, this is not a SET formula, but comparisons from MSRP to the deals people are walking out of the dealership having paid.


This contains math and gets a little tricky, but it pretty much makes sense.

Example:
For my zip code(apparently it matters)
----------------
Edmunds quotes: with the ABS option and orange color(yes, color matters not much, but some)
MSRP: $25,030
Invoice: $22,996
What the average customer pays(CP): $23,374
---------------

From this info this is HOW you want to make YOUR deal. If you want to do it based off previous customers then:
My Formula:CP/MSRP (Customer Pay divided by MSRP).

This tells you what percentage of the MSRP the customer paid.
EX. If something is $10 MSRP, and you pay $9
9/10 = 90% of MSRP

Then next time you know if something is $20 MSRP expect to pay:
$20 * .90(<---90%) = $18 dollars


So we take:
23374/25030 = 93% <--- most people pay 93% of MSRP by Edmunds' listed price.

If you go by invoice(invoice/MSRP):
22996/25030 = 92% <----invoice is 92% of MSRP by Edmunds.


------------------------------
Cars Direct:
MSRP: $25,030
Target Price: $23,316

Target Price/MSRP
23316/25030 = 93%
-----------------------------

Basically most people pay 93% of MSRP.

Which isn't that great, if you could get 90% of MSRP...take it.......or start low and gradually move up to 90~91% then stand firm.

Back to the math:
For your car
YOUR MSRP: $24,740

We take that number multiply it by the 93%, and we get an estimate of what most people will pay for your car(trust me on the math logic).

93% of MSRP
24740*.93=23008 (You got a better offer)

92% of MSRP(Invoice)
24740*.92=22760.80 (Much better)

So 22,760.80 is your invoice price, and 23,008 is what other people are paying for your car.

But those numbers don't take into account the new 05's coming out, and how many people have test drove your car(how many miles).....etc etc. Also the previous purchase numbers include Fall 2003 sales, so the price has gone down dramatically.

If you're not COMPLETELY confused, you know more math than what's good for you.

Try $20.5K honestly, then SLOWLY move up to $21.5-21.7K, don't jump up by $500's.

Also the formula is what most of the people have paid.....try to beat it.

Even if you can get $21799(before rebate) that's:
217999/24740 = 88% of MSRP....that's an AWESOME deal



This is a closeout model, you have the power not them, they want the 04's off their lots and want tons of 05's. Don't let them get ya'.

I know people are gonna hate my formula.

 

ABS(and orange) is an absolute must, so that is one I was pleased with. I also need to mention, this orange has black stripes on it, and the dealer will put the deluxe rims on for me at no additional cost. It has the standard gt rims on it now. I have personally driven this car miles and miles. I know it has been on the lot since March, and no one has bought it. The dealer I am using is in Tuscaloosa Al, and is not one of the velcro dealers(who told me their cruddy v6auto was the last orange mustang in alabama). I am doing most everything over email fax and phone as well to make life easier.

Since my leadfoot husband is on my insurance, it is also going to cost me 110 a month to insure it. ( I overinsure, because of the uninsured in this state)

I have rented an 04 from Hertz. I am going to try it out for size and see what happens. I have two children, and if they can't fit in there without folding up(11 and 9 years old) its going to be a problem. This is my ultimate road test about whether I go for the beeeyooooootyful 05 or get the car color of my dreams(being the 05 is a new model I have no wiggle room or rebates, and with no rebates, this means no GT.

I am already aware about how it handles in all manner of traffic( I use a rip off artist car dealer near me to drive em) I have drove in stop and go, got her up to 90 on the interstate and taken her down a country road and a us highway. Aside from being able to feel every pebble on the road, I am pleased. The clutch is a dream, and shifting is very smooth. The rental is an auto v6 I can pretend though.

 

Pricing on the invoice:

Dont know what this is: Fdaf/lmda assesment $245
Invoice Total $22964.52
Holdback $724
Less Approx Financing for dealer acct $125
Invoice less holdback and final cost $22115.52
A&D plan $21945.52
X plan $22973.34
Sold to Townsend Ford
Build Date 11/20/03
Item number 21-a027
VIN 1fafp42x54f164781(164,781th to roll off the line apparently)
Delivery $625, which I think is a bs charge
4.6 liter 2v soch v8- screaming, it sounds like a dream
ABS customer charge $730 Dealer charge $650

Its a gt deluxe,

Here is one from a busier dealer(in silver):
2004 Mustang Coupe GT
VIN: 1FAFP42X74F160036
Total MSRP:$25,335.00
Total Invoice: $23,495.00

If I build the same on ford:
Total MSRP: $25,030.00
Total Invoice: $23,197.00

I forgot to mention I have a 99 alero gls I am desperate to get rid of(gm issues)I had "I want disease" when I got it, and paid way too much. Walked in said, I want, and signed off, Never again! I have also driven it to hades and back and have 135k miles on it. Going to take a hit on it. Keeping is not an option because then I have to replace more GM created problems $$$$$$(dex cool breakage).