03/04 Mach 1 Question
#1
03/04 Mach 1 Question
Anyone remember if the Mach 1 was to be a one year run originally (I kinda remember that)? Ford has a tendency to produce more than promised. I was discussing this issue on the GT500 forum and wanted to have factual info.
Also, how many were supposed to be produced and how many ended up being produced?
Thanks
Kevin
Also, how many were supposed to be produced and how many ended up being produced?
Thanks
Kevin
Last edited by crazyhorse; 3/24/08 at 09:15 PM.
#2
I am pretty much 99.9% sure the Mach1 was supposed to be a one year run. My friend worked for a dealership at the time and had literature that stated that the Mach1 was a one year SE like the 01' Bullitt. I also remember hearing rumors that Ford was planing on building a Boss SE for 04' but for whatever reason Ford decided to pull the plug on it (i'm still shocked that we haven't seen a new Boss or Mach1 yet we get the California Special that no one asked for.....)
I'm gonna try to see if he can dig up the brochure so I can give you a definent yes but i'm like 99.9% sure.......
I'm gonna try to see if he can dig up the brochure so I can give you a definent yes but i'm like 99.9% sure.......
#4
Sure, Ford made more Mach 1's (and GT500's) than originally planned, and there's a concern that they'll do the same with the S197 Bullitts, but let's put this in proper context, please....
1999 35th Anniversary GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 4,628 were sold.
2000 Spring Feature GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 3,901 were sold.
2001 Bullitt GT. Ford planned 6,500, but only 5,582 were sold.
So, 3 years running, Ford couldn't sell out their SE Mustangs!!! Next up, 2003 Mach 1. 6,500 planned, but demand was strong with almost 10K sold. Second year added, and more than 7K additional Mach 1's sold in 2004.
Look at 2002-5 T-Birds. Ford planned for 25K per year, but barely sold 18K in 2002. Steadily dropped each year until cancelled after the 2005 model year.
Then there was the 2005-7 Ford GT supercars. Tough to sell $150K (MSRP) Fords (with or without ADM's), so Ford pulled the plug early and did not build 2007's.
So, Ford has had a tough time pegging the market for specialty cars. Sometimes they can't sell enough of them, and sometimes they can't build enough of them. It's a good problem to have when you can justify building more of something than you originally planned due to strong demand, so let's cut Ford some slack for building extra Mach 1's, GT500's, and Bullitts to meet demand.
1999 35th Anniversary GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 4,628 were sold.
2000 Spring Feature GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 3,901 were sold.
2001 Bullitt GT. Ford planned 6,500, but only 5,582 were sold.
So, 3 years running, Ford couldn't sell out their SE Mustangs!!! Next up, 2003 Mach 1. 6,500 planned, but demand was strong with almost 10K sold. Second year added, and more than 7K additional Mach 1's sold in 2004.
Look at 2002-5 T-Birds. Ford planned for 25K per year, but barely sold 18K in 2002. Steadily dropped each year until cancelled after the 2005 model year.
Then there was the 2005-7 Ford GT supercars. Tough to sell $150K (MSRP) Fords (with or without ADM's), so Ford pulled the plug early and did not build 2007's.
So, Ford has had a tough time pegging the market for specialty cars. Sometimes they can't sell enough of them, and sometimes they can't build enough of them. It's a good problem to have when you can justify building more of something than you originally planned due to strong demand, so let's cut Ford some slack for building extra Mach 1's, GT500's, and Bullitts to meet demand.
#5
Sure, Ford made more Mach 1's (and GT500's) than originally planned, and there's a concern that they'll do the same with the S197 Bullitts, but let's put this in proper context, please....
1999 35th Anniversary GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 4,628 were sold.
2000 Spring Feature GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 3,901 were sold.
2001 Bullitt GT. Ford planned 6,500, but only 5,582 were sold.
So, 3 years running, Ford couldn't sell out their SE Mustangs!!! Next up, 2003 Mach 1. 6,500 planned, but demand was strong with almost 10K sold. Second year added, and more than 7K additional Mach 1's sold in 2004.
Look at 2002-5 T-Birds. Ford planned for 25K per year, but barely sold 18K in 2002. Steadily dropped each year until cancelled after the 2005 model year.
Then there was the 2005-7 Ford GT supercars. Tough to sell $150K (MSRP) Fords (with or without ADM's), so Ford pulled the plug early and did not build 2007's.
So, Ford has had a tough time pegging the market for specialty cars. Sometimes they can't sell enough of them, and sometimes they can't build enough of them. It's a good problem to have when you can justify building more of something than you originally planned due to strong demand, so let's cut Ford some slack for building extra Mach 1's, GT500's, and Bullitts to meet demand.
1999 35th Anniversary GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 4,628 were sold.
2000 Spring Feature GT. Ford planned 6,000, but only 3,901 were sold.
2001 Bullitt GT. Ford planned 6,500, but only 5,582 were sold.
So, 3 years running, Ford couldn't sell out their SE Mustangs!!! Next up, 2003 Mach 1. 6,500 planned, but demand was strong with almost 10K sold. Second year added, and more than 7K additional Mach 1's sold in 2004.
Look at 2002-5 T-Birds. Ford planned for 25K per year, but barely sold 18K in 2002. Steadily dropped each year until cancelled after the 2005 model year.
Then there was the 2005-7 Ford GT supercars. Tough to sell $150K (MSRP) Fords (with or without ADM's), so Ford pulled the plug early and did not build 2007's.
So, Ford has had a tough time pegging the market for specialty cars. Sometimes they can't sell enough of them, and sometimes they can't build enough of them. It's a good problem to have when you can justify building more of something than you originally planned due to strong demand, so let's cut Ford some slack for building extra Mach 1's, GT500's, and Bullitts to meet demand.
I'm just saying that people shouldn't bank on the projected production numbers. For that matter, they shouldn't be buying these cars (any of them) for investment. These are meant to be driven. Worry about collecting them when they are available used in several years.
#8
In fact, I am envious of both of your rides. I'd love to add either one to my stable.
#9
I'm a year behind you in ownership and I love the car now more so than when I drove off the lot. No plans to sell mine either.
#10
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Ford never committed to a one year run. What they did was release the limited projected production estimate for the 2003MY, which is the identical approach being used on the plans for the '08 Bullitt and the recently released plans for its continuous production for the 2009MY.
#12
I still miss my Mach 1, but since a friend owns it, he lets me drive it occasionally. The '07 GT is a great car, but is a little too refined (I like the rawness of the SN95 platform - especially the Mach 1's).
#14
There was an Azure Mach 1 wth 27 miles on it that Mom n Dad wouldn't let me buy at the time... Man.. There have been alot of Mach1s that I always wanted to buy at inopportune times
#15
I bought my 04 brand new January 6th, 2004. I love her more than any other car I have ever owned (and I have owned many other Mustangs). She performs well at both the strip and road racing. I have surprised more than one LS1 and frequently beat up on unsuspecting Corvettes as well. This year she will have a wee shot of juice on her and should go deep in the 11s. Not bad for a lil 281.
#16
I love the 03-04 Mach1! I feel that thus far it is the only worthy mid level Mustang of the modern era. I don't mean to bash on the 01' Bullitt or for that matter the new 08' Bullitt and Shelby GT but while those cars in my opinion were tarted up GTs the Mach 1 had its own unique look and performance. I am familiar with the GT, Mach1 and Cobra and all three are surprisingly very different. I don't see that in the Shelby GT or the Bullitt. I am the owner of an 03' Cobra and even I must admit as far as the MSRP goes the Mach1 provided the best bang for the buck. I still amazes me that more people didn't buy these cars in late 04' when I saw them selling at rebate along with the Cobras.
Perhaps the hype of the 10' Mustang will do the same to 09' Shelbys and other SE cars. Though I got a little off subject I just wanted to gush about the 03-04 Mach1
Perhaps the hype of the 10' Mustang will do the same to 09' Shelbys and other SE cars. Though I got a little off subject I just wanted to gush about the 03-04 Mach1
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