compatible heads
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compatible heads
I bought the BBK SSI intake manifold for my 87 gt 5.0 and am looking for compatible performance heads for this manifold, anyone out there have any recommendations for me??
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Edelbrock performer, performer RPM, Trickflow twisted wedge, Holley systemax, Airflow research AFR165's, AFR185's. There's quite a few and you can't go wrong with any of those. Stay away from heads with intake runners bigger than 200cc's until you have the supporting mods to be able to run the high RPMs that those heads produce the most power in.
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I was looking at the Edelbrock performer cylinder heads but wasn't sure if they'd fit with the SSI because I was leaning towards the GT40x heads and those are similar to the Edelbrock performer but the GT40x heads aren't compatible with SSI manifold. Since I posted this posting asking for help I came across Darts Iron Eagle performance heads, what's your opinion on theses? And for a cam I was looking at Ford Racing E303 or Anderson Ford Motorsports N-41(I know the second one is recommended with the Dart Iron Eagle heads) but besides that haven't heard much about it. Let me know what you think.
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I was looking at the Edelbrock performer cylinder heads but wasn't sure if they'd fit with the SSI because I was leaning towards the GT40x heads and those are similar to the Edelbrock performer but the GT40x heads aren't compatible with SSI manifold. Since I posted this posting asking for help I came across Darts Iron Eagle performance heads, what's your opinion on theses? And for a cam I was looking at Ford Racing E303 or Anderson Ford Motorsports N-41(I know the second one is recommended with the Dart Iron Eagle heads) but besides that haven't heard much about it. Let me know what you think.
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Don't overlook our tech section, I have a link for choosing a cam and other helpful info. A custom grind isn't too far off price of a decent off the shelf. Anderson isn't bad at all but comp also has decent sticks and I like the trick flow stage 1 and 2.
Ed Curtis is the man for custom grinds, he can be contacted via email here http://www.flowtechinduction.com/
Don't forget you will need to upgrade the stock fuel pump and injectors and ...
do a mass air conversion, speed density isn't going to play nice beyond the intake swap and will make life so much easier.
mass air link..
mass air conversion
mass air/ speed density explained
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I appreciate all that, ill check out the dart pro 1 and the AFR's. I don't really like the twisted edge's haven't heard to many good things about them and there's so many other heads that out perform them. I'm running 24lb injectors with and 80mm MAF BBK with them and a BBK cold air intake so I'm all set with the mass air conversion. As goes for camshafts, I've always been a fan of ford racing products even though many people aren't but ill check out comps and that link you gave me for custom cams. Is there a website you'd recommend for performance parts other than Americanmuscle or Mustangsunlimited.. summit is a good one also but trying to compare prices with everything.
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I appreciate all that, ill check out the dart pro 1 and the AFR's. I don't really like the twisted edge's haven't heard to many good things about them and there's so many other heads that out perform them. I'm running 24lb injectors with and 80mm MAF BBK with them and a BBK cold air intake so I'm all set with the mass air conversion. As goes for camshafts, I've always been a fan of ford racing products even though many people aren't but ill check out comps and that link you gave me for custom cams. Is there a website you'd recommend for performance parts other than Americanmuscle or Mustangsunlimited.. summit is a good one also but trying to compare prices with everything.
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I wasn't trying to debate was just stating my opinion and thanks for all the help, I think after looking into everything you put in front of me I'm going to go with the AFR 185cc heads. Still looking into camshafts but you were right comp has many things to offer in that category so possibly leaning towards the stage II comp.
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Are you running an auto or a stick, because that will play into which can to get also. In my old 5.0 I ran cnc ported performer rpm heads, trickflow r series intake, and a trickflow stage 3 cam. I loved that setup. Boat loads of power, and an awesome sounding idle. I still miss that car
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I wasn't trying to debate was just stating my opinion and thanks for all the help, I think after looking into everything you put in front of me I'm going to go with the AFR 185cc heads. Still looking into camshafts but you were right comp has many things to offer in that category so possibly leaning towards the stage II comp.
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I have never ran afrs. But when I was making my head decision I ran across lots of info stating that cam choice will be super limited with the afr 185s. I just wanted to bring that to your attention..
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My car is stick/5-speed and yeah I've been saving up and really want this pony running and running strong!! I've been working on it for about a year, took a little vaca from it all and now I've just had enough of it sitting there so I got finish what I started.
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Oh really? Onebadvert, I was looking at comp cams energy XE282HR camshaft. It seemed to have the power,torque and idle I was looking for but now that you say that I'm second guessing it... do you know if that cam will go with thoses heads? I tried looking up compatible cams with the AFR 185cc heads on google and could come across anything so I didn't think it'd be a problem
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Oh really? Onebadvert, I was looking at comp cams energy XE282HR camshaft. It seemed to have the power,torque and idle I was looking for but now that you say that I'm second guessing it... do you know if that cam will go with thoses heads? I tried looking up compatible cams with the AFR 185cc heads on google and could come across anything so I didn't think it'd be a problem
I also read that the afr165s (still great heads btw) are limited to like .520 lift cams but I know a guy with a.590 cam and those heads. They are lots of factors when it comes to piston to valve clearance and the only way to be certain is to check when you get your parts. Just do as much research as you can about the combo you want to make your self educated before you make your purchase. My final decision was the twisted wedge and I couldnt be happier.
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Yeah I'm definitely taking my time with it all and doing the research for it before I purchase anything, but reading that link you sent me one of the guys said the F303 cam should work. I'm going to call around to couple places tomorrow to see what certain company's have to say what's a good choice with AFR's. Appreciate you bring that to my attention and if have any other questions down the road you'll see it pop up on here.
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Yeah I'm definitely taking my time with it all and doing the research for it before I purchase anything, but reading that link you sent me one of the guys said the F303 cam should work. I'm going to call around to couple places tomorrow to see what certain company's have to say what's a good choice with AFR's. Appreciate you bring that to my attention and if have any other questions down the road you'll see it pop up on here.
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AFR 185s with the larger valves will just about always need more valve relief. I would check ptv no matter what.
AFR165s run the obvious smaller valves.
The F cam will need more valve relief on stock pistons.
Give Ed Curtis a try, a custom cam is just that a cam designed for your engine .
read how to select a cam in out tech section if that will further.
303 cams leave hp on the table ( and the case with many off the shelf cams ) this is where the custom grind shines.
AFR165s run the obvious smaller valves.
The F cam will need more valve relief on stock pistons.
Give Ed Curtis a try, a custom cam is just that a cam designed for your engine .
read how to select a cam in out tech section if that will further.
303 cams leave hp on the table ( and the case with many off the shelf cams ) this is where the custom grind shines.