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302 supercharger/manifold on a 351W

Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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302 supercharger/manifold on a 351W

Well I'm just finishing up gathering all of the parts I need for this install, I'm just waiting for my distributor to come back from price motor sports with the spacer pressed on. I decided to make a tutorial on how to do this 302 to 351 manifold swap and blower install. Once I get all of my parts back I will tear into the actual work but I just wanted to post this for those that may be interested in following this build over the next few weeks.

The blower is going on my 68 mustang but I wanted to post technical/speed part things in this forum since the fox guys are generally more into that than the first Gen. guys.

I will be replacing my tired valve springs with this install can anyone recommend an affordable set with higher than stock seat pressure that is somewhat affordable? I found a set from trickflow with retainers and all for $200 if I can find a better deal I'll take it!

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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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So you are going with a 351w manifold on your 302? 351 heads would make that a lot easier I would think.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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No I have a 351 that I'm putting a 302 blower on.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Alright now I understand. I would have probably went full 302 instead or at least 302 heads but it seems like a good project. Definitely keep us updated on progress.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Why go full 302 or 302 heads? All the compression I lose with my big chambered 351 heads I gain back with the the boost and actually the low compression I have now puts me in an optimal place to be running boost, not to mention the added safety of having the beefier bottom end the 351 offers.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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351 shortblock would be good. Big valve, big chamber 302 heads would take care of that. 70+cc with 202 valve trick flows would be my direction. But of course TF's are not cheap.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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The windsor heads I have now have been cleaned up, and I believe I have 1.9" valves in them currently. I will be putting in new valve springs during the install to deal with the boost.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Doesn't sound like a bad project. I would recommend a fluidamper if the bottom end is not forged.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Hmm I have never heard of that, care to enlighten me? my bottom end is unfortunately not cast. But when I blow it up it will give me a good excuse to build something that is lol
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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Replacement balancer. They do help keep things together. I believe in them. http://www.fluidampr.com/
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Wow have never heard of them before, sounds like an interesting concept I may look into it more later but right now I'm just trying to get the blower on before it gets snowy. I'm only planning on about 420-440 horsepower at the crank.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Cant wait to hear how it goes. Good luck with it.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Thanks, I will be posting video with each step, then maybe another dyno video this spring.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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read, then decide for yourself:
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums...664#post516664
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hi5.0
That's a pretty good thread. Lots of info there.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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I had never really considered a harmonic an important mod I always just ran a stock one. Are all of you running an aftermarket balancer?
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kjacobson351
I had never really considered a harmonic an important mod I always just ran a stock one. Are all of you running an aftermarket balancer?
No but I seem to remember the 351W being a bit lacking on the bottom end. Firing order or something like that. Resulting in some bottom end failures. Under boost, I would use a damper just because The extra stress on the bottom end they produce. But that's not saying that they are necessary. But won't hurt.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Have you ever seen the bottom end of a 351? The main's are enormous compared to a 302.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kjacobson351
Have you ever seen the bottom end of a 351? The main's are enormous compared to a 302.
Yeah but I seem to remember some issue with them. We need some of our historians here to get me back up to speed on that. With forced induction, especially on the pushrod small blocks, I've seen too many bottom ends go bad. Balancing will help. Unless you are going with a forged and balanced bottom. Again, not saying the balancer is necessary, but I would use one.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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Thanks, everything is cast so it's just a matter of time before catastrophe lol I will look into Windsor bottom end advice
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