Was thinking to pass the time in the off season to start a weekly feature here of a build up. Loosely what I was thinking of is picking a "shell" or project car off eBay as an example. Set the budget for the build and then we can all fire away at the "build" in order until it's complete. Theme/concept would also be part of it.

I figure this could generate some discussion and also provide some ideas and shopping info ... not to mention cost concepts.

 

FANTASTIC idea!

Kind of a "virtual" Overhaulin' - 1 week build. :w00t:

 

That is a great idea!

I think Jay needs to pick the first project, and any theme/concept for the build. When it's done, Jay should pick a good contributor from that week to be the captain of next week's build.

 

I think there will be a project manager AKA Foose for each week. Then the build team will be split up into:

1. Interior/Electrical/Audio
2. Exterior (Paint, trim, etc.)
3. Body and "Frame"
4. Suspension/Steering/Braking
5. Engine/Trans./Rear/Exhaust
6. Part Recycler (person will be responsible for seeing what money can be made back into the budget by selling the parts that are pulled off)
7. Photochopper to put it all together if possible

Question for Blake is if you can start a thread that only members of the team can post to? Then have a second area for everyone to discuss it.

 

I can't restrict access, but I can make it a sticky, and I can lock/unlock them. We can Make the design thread a sticky, and make a "review the build" thread among the others. I can also merge topics, so that we can put them together after the week is over if we want to.

I imagined this as an open suggestion format, were the "Foose" has final say on all decisions. Then, based on the quality of suggestions, the next "Foose" is chosen by the current manager.

We should come up with a name for this too. Maybe try to incorporate a number in there too so it's easy to reference which one we're talking about. Fantasy Build, Virtual Build... I got it! Maybe reference what the builders call "The Thrash". That is the final days/hours of assembly where everything comes together.

Do y'all think this should be a Monday-Friday thing? Try to get the final photochop up by noon on Friday? That way that afternoon and weekend it can be discussed/criticized.

 

Should be a great way to test out some ideas I can't wait to see what everyone can come up with.

 

I think it would help to have a weekend in the build too, it's not going to be as easy as we think. I would hope we could cover as much as possible to make it "realistic".

Weekly Thrash? :scratch:

Of course each project would have a name like "Sick Fish" etc....

 

If it's 7 days long, when would the "reveal" be? Monday morning?

I like the idea to name each project too. "The Thrash IV: Sick Fish"

Here's a few questions:
• Do we keep tabs on all the $ spent on parts?
• Should we limit the budget?
• Post a list of links to special products used in the build?

The more I think about this, the more questions I find. I wonder if we should leave pretty much everything as a judgment call of the Foose of the week? For instance, one build chief may like to see how creative we can get on a budget build, where another may like push the envelope with a Fastforward design or a Ring brothers car.

I'll volunteer myself for photochop duty.

 

You're getting there. The build could be a $10k daily driver, a $20k track car, or a $50k street machine.

I think money is a big part of the game so that needs to be included. If something special is proposed it should include a link or an explanation.

The week is getting tighter. Monday should be the reveal so the artists can get teh rendering done over the weekend.

Could maybe do a thread a day to cover each segment... body, suspension, engine, etc. So Monday is Motor Day and Tuesday is Suspension Day ... then the "Foose" could select the best of the day as the final for the build.

As tough as it maybe I'd like to get detailed with this so you could almost use any build as a loose script to replicate it.

 

Can we have freebies? You know......ZIP, ZILCH NADA!

 

If money is an issue, we can really only count parts. Some important things like rust repair can be suggestive, and I'm getting a geeky D&D flashback of "I just fixed the rusted cowl, deduct $1,100 from the budget". Consider any "labor" as free.

The dedicated day (motor day, suspension day, etc..) could work, though wouldn't that week's Foose already have an idea for how those would be handled? Maybe that would be varied from week to week by the build chief.

 

i think the foose should be in charge of the order of what gets done, we will obviously not have to have a tear down day, unless you feel like photochopping a complets cars with differsnt stages of disassembly. or it may be better to have the teams work with their ideas for an allotted amount of time and the submit their ideas to the team captain on a ceratin day, then the team captain will decide if what parts fit the buil/budget, etc. what do you guys think about that?

 

maybe we could even have a contest between two groups?

 

first i would like to say that this is an awesome idea and i would love to join in on the fun if i could allso i would like to say that there shouldnt be freebe's shuld make it more realistic we should show people what you can do with an acually budget basicaly make something really cool for not alot of money.....

some of the coolest cars i have seen have the lest amount of money put into them.
there just done so tastful its really cool

so in conclustion

count me in if you will have me

 

Could be interesting. In addition to the highdollar stuff, I'd like to see if we could build a "Spring Break Special"... a low dollar convertible that would make it to Ft. Lauderdale and back.

 

That could be a theme too. I'm all for varying it.

Looks like we may have to run one to see how it works before making changes to the system. I will plan to have a project car picked out for Friday morning. We can then set the wheels in motion over the weekend and by next Friday have a car "done".

One starting rule I came up with is the car has to come from eBay and the starting cost has to be a higher bid then what it closed at or the BIN price. So the auction has to close by the date you start the build.


ALSO on the cost of labor issue I think we need to build some of it into the budget. By this I mean the parts that you generally have to contract out because of their difficulty or the amount of specialized equipment needed (such as high-end painting, blasting, powder coating, etc.) then that should be factored in. The other labor that you and a couple friends could pull of in the shop would not be an issue.

Basically at the end I want to be able to step back from each build and say here's the recipe with the ingredients and the cost to get to that level.

 

but Jay, what about the nickel and dime stuff that eats more of your budget than you ever planned. like 10 hose clamps at a 1.50 each, 3 cans of spray paint for the engine and 4 more for the engine bay, 5 cans of spray on undercoating, all new dash bulbs at 2 bucks each and a total of 10 bulbs (or is it 12 for a 69) all that good stuff. how do we figure that stuff?

 

I don't think we should account for that stuff. It should really be an outline, simply because it would be both impossible, and impractical to include every possible expendature.

 

blake, that was actually kind of my point. it would be hard to determine the price of some bodywork on the older cars. some things, like quarter panel replacement are fairly standard throughout the country, but others like cowl repair are not. i think we need to stick with cars that have a fairly soild body and assume we would only have to do minor bodywork of the type most of us could do ourselves. but like i said some stuff would be fairly easy to figur the cost. like a quarter skin, most places charge around 4-600 bucks per quarter so that is fairly easy to figure if we came across a car that had a an otherwise excellent body but had a fairly large whang in the quarter so that we know it would need a quarter replacement, as an example. as far as anything like hose clamps or light bulbs we could have a set amount for every build that we could call shop supplies and /or misceallaneous, say like 500 bucks or something and nobody would be allowed to dip into that fund. just another suggestion that way we could get a more accurate amount. man, am i taking this to seriously?

 

here is an interesting car to build up, a fully loaded 68 "B" package sprint with all the goodies, a/c, deluxe interior with roof console. it won't make the deadline for this week, but might make it for next week. looks fairly solid with minimal rust, non-running. currently at 300 bucks with zero bids and 6 days left. heck i may have to buy this one myself.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...2496012648&rd=1