THRASH ONE: Powertrain
#1
Let's hear the ideas here for the Powertrain. This should include the engine, transmission, exhaust, rear end, and any/all parts associated with these systems such as the cooling systems, ignition, clutch, driveshaft and so on.
#2
"High Caliber 357"
(Given a 0.030-inch overbore from the get-go, the 4.030x3.500-inch bore-and-stroke 351 Windsor displaces 357 cubes.)
Ported Twisted Wedge cylinder heads with standard 2.02x1.60-inch valve package
Ford EFI control
93 Cobra Uppper and Lower Intake
65mm Ford Racing Performance Parts throttle body, a Pro-M 77mm mass airflow sensor, and a K&N air filter
Vortech V-1 S-Trim Supercharger
Centerforce Clutch
Richmond Six Speed Transmission
Aluminum Driveshaft
3.73 Gears
Custom Mandrel Bent Aluminized 2.5" Exhaust to get around the IRS (more on that later)
Magnaflow Mufflers
(Given a 0.030-inch overbore from the get-go, the 4.030x3.500-inch bore-and-stroke 351 Windsor displaces 357 cubes.)
Ported Twisted Wedge cylinder heads with standard 2.02x1.60-inch valve package
Ford EFI control
93 Cobra Uppper and Lower Intake
65mm Ford Racing Performance Parts throttle body, a Pro-M 77mm mass airflow sensor, and a K&N air filter
Vortech V-1 S-Trim Supercharger
Centerforce Clutch
Richmond Six Speed Transmission
Aluminum Driveshaft
3.73 Gears
Custom Mandrel Bent Aluminized 2.5" Exhaust to get around the IRS (more on that later)
Magnaflow Mufflers
#4
Originally posted by Jay@October 22, 2004, 10:22 AM
Blake,
Need a cost estimate, including any machining etc. you would not do as a basic builder in your garage.
Blake,
Need a cost estimate, including any machining etc. you would not do as a basic builder in your garage.
#5
Boring!!! Sorry, but that sounds like an engine for a daily driver.
The engine bay is the meat and potatoes of project. Surely there's something more exciting and different. Maybe the twin turbo setup on a smallblock would turn some heads. If you want to go blown, I like the dualcarb dualblown setup!
The engine bay is the meat and potatoes of project. Surely there's something more exciting and different. Maybe the twin turbo setup on a smallblock would turn some heads. If you want to go blown, I like the dualcarb dualblown setup!
#6
#7
Originally posted by GT350Clone@October 22, 2004, 11:36 AM
Organ Donor
Also gives us the transmission & IRS.
Organ Donor
Also gives us the transmission & IRS.
#8
Starting point
Engine = 625 HP, Ford 514ci
Price = $7,999.95 summit racing part number FMS-M-6007-D514
Intake = Old School Weiand Tunnel Ram
Price = $287.95 summit part number wnd-1993
Carburetors = Barry Grand Road Demons 625 CFM VAC secondary electric choke
Price = 2 x $339.95 summit part number GPT-4282010VE
Carburetor linkage = universal
Price = $14.39 summit part number SUM-G1428
Fuel Pump = BG Fuel System electric pump
Price = $249.00 summit part number BGI-170013
Transmission = Richmond 5 speed
Price = $1949.00 summit part number RMG-7041710A
Bell housing = Lakewood steel
Price = $329.95 part number LAK-15220
Trans Yoke = Trans Yoke Turbo 400
Price = $69.95 Summit part number IED-SY-400-1310
Flywheel = Ford
racing billet steel
Price = $274.88 Summit part number = FMS-M-6375-Z460
Clutch = Center Force Duel Friction Clutch and Pressure Plate Assembly
Price = $298.95 Summit Part Number CTF-DF161057
Driveshaft = Custom made locally
Price = Around $100-150
Rear end = Ford 9 Inch already in car
Price = FREE CAME WITH CAR
Posi-Trac = Detroit locker
Price = $429.95 summit part number SUM-730928
Gears = 4:11 Richmond
Price = $159.88 summit part number RMG-6901791
My Start Still need to get cooling and exhast and mounts involved in there ill Edit when i figure that out
Engine = 625 HP, Ford 514ci
Price = $7,999.95 summit racing part number FMS-M-6007-D514
Intake = Old School Weiand Tunnel Ram
Price = $287.95 summit part number wnd-1993
Carburetors = Barry Grand Road Demons 625 CFM VAC secondary electric choke
Price = 2 x $339.95 summit part number GPT-4282010VE
Carburetor linkage = universal
Price = $14.39 summit part number SUM-G1428
Fuel Pump = BG Fuel System electric pump
Price = $249.00 summit part number BGI-170013
Transmission = Richmond 5 speed
Price = $1949.00 summit part number RMG-7041710A
Bell housing = Lakewood steel
Price = $329.95 part number LAK-15220
Trans Yoke = Trans Yoke Turbo 400
Price = $69.95 Summit part number IED-SY-400-1310
Flywheel = Ford
racing billet steel
Price = $274.88 Summit part number = FMS-M-6375-Z460
Clutch = Center Force Duel Friction Clutch and Pressure Plate Assembly
Price = $298.95 Summit Part Number CTF-DF161057
Driveshaft = Custom made locally
Price = Around $100-150
Rear end = Ford 9 Inch already in car
Price = FREE CAME WITH CAR
Posi-Trac = Detroit locker
Price = $429.95 summit part number SUM-730928
Gears = 4:11 Richmond
Price = $159.88 summit part number RMG-6901791
My Start Still need to get cooling and exhast and mounts involved in there ill Edit when i figure that out
#9
Organ Donor may have fit if not for the HIV+ status... WTF is that?
Maverick is making a real clear plan and picture for me... I'd like to keep it all under the hood though, but the big block is actually where I was leaning (though it goes against the sort of "modern" performance idea). What do you have to FI that setup instead of the carbs/ram?
Maverick is making a real clear plan and picture for me... I'd like to keep it all under the hood though, but the big block is actually where I was leaning (though it goes against the sort of "modern" performance idea). What do you have to FI that setup instead of the carbs/ram?
#12
I'd classify it similar to the intended purpose of my current car. It's ready to show at any time with a little cleaning but it's not something you would typically drive more than 2 days a week in the summer.
At the same time you could put this through the Hot Rod Power Tour and do the whole thing comfortably. Have to balance it all. A big block built with a modern FI setup would be streetable to me and at the same time would add the WOW factor that Pro-Touring embodies.
At the same time you could put this through the Hot Rod Power Tour and do the whole thing comfortably. Have to balance it all. A big block built with a modern FI setup would be streetable to me and at the same time would add the WOW factor that Pro-Touring embodies.
#14
Originally posted by Jay@October 22, 2004, 1:57 PM
and at the same time would add the WOW factor that Pro-Touring embodies.
and at the same time would add the WOW factor that Pro-Touring embodies.
<-not trying to be argumentative. You're the "Foose" on this one. I'm just sayin'.
#17
Originally posted by BLAKE+October 22, 2004, 1:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BLAKE @ October 22, 2004, 1:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jay@October 22, 2004, 1:57 PM
and at the same time would add the WOW factor that Pro-Touring embodies.
and at the same time would add the WOW factor that Pro-Touring embodies.
<-not trying to be argumentative. You're the "Foose" on this one. I'm just sayin'. [/b][/quote]
the big block over the small will only add about 200 lbs we can shave that off the front end easy enought to off set it pluss we could lower the motor and its mounts to make the center of gravity a lot lower to the ground
#19
I knew this would come in handy some day: Ford Engine Weights Thread
#20
What about an ALUMINUM FE??? Yeah, it adds ~$7k to the cost, but it's a bolt-in... Add the Alum E-brock heads and a twin TB EFI setup on a vintage 8V intake.... Now we're down in 351 weight range...
Very do-able. Figure $15k-$18k, but then we retain stock suspension architecture, and you wouldn't run an IRS (at least not for long). :shock:
Very do-able. Figure $15k-$18k, but then we retain stock suspension architecture, and you wouldn't run an IRS (at least not for long). :shock: