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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Hi all-

I was flipping through the CA Mustang catalog that I got today. I noticed some SS brake lines. I recently swapped a "suicide" single Master Cylinder to a dual chamber and wonder if this would be another good modification to help the ol' Pony stop.

The price tag is about 113. Worth it?

Do you like your SS lines?

Lemme hear your input.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Used them on my '69 when I went from drum to disc brakes. I believe its money well spent as they will not rust and come prebent for easier installation.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Do you need new hoses? What do you have for discs?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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Jay--

My hoses are starting to show their age, but are still servicable. My lines are steel ends with rubber in the middle.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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I guess I should clarify that I mean brake hoses, not lines. Does that make sense?

What I get for trying to dash off a question as I dash out the door for lunch. Too much dashing.



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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Do you have stock disc brakes? Or an aftermarket kit? They claim the stainless hoses increase performance on all setups, but you really would notice it on a big aftermarket setup vs. a relatively stock setup.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Dead stock. I can tell a difference between the two chamber and single chamber mastercylinder, though.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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I bought stainless hoses from Russell, nice looking hoses but they are still sitting in the package on a shelf in my garage. Seems that Russell did not know that the support bracket in the wheel well has a hex shaped hole, not the D shaped hole the Russell hoses require.

I have not been able to find a suitable bracket and since I do not have welding skills or the tools, they remain unused.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Hmmm. Jeff, sorry to hear this, but this is good to know. I'll certainly keep my eyes open about this.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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I put stainless lines on another collector car I have and had a h*&%ll of a time getting them to stop leaking. Stainless isn't that maleable (sp?) so the flare has a hard time conforming to its seat in the calipers (in my case). Much loosening, tightening, loosening, tightening and tightening harder each time finally did it. Just a thought....
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by 66HertzClone@December 22, 2004, 8:59 PM
I bought stainless hoses from Russell, nice looking hoses but they are still sitting in the package on a shelf in my garage. Seems that Russell did not know that the support bracket in the wheel well has a hex shaped hole, not the D shaped hole the Russell hoses require.

I have not been able to find a suitable bracket and since I do not have welding skills or the tools, they remain unused.
The Russell ones that I purchased included the required brackets....was the packaged opened?
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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OK, something between the convo's of Jay and Paul is sending off spikes in my head here. Paul, are you sure that you've had disc's all this time but only a single reservoir master? And just now doing a dual one? I didn't even realize you could run them on a single. Are you positive you don't have a drum system if it's stock? I don't know your car at all or pretend to, but I can't shake the feeling that you guys are missing something between each other here and just think your talking the same. If it's me who's confused than I appologize for butting in.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Pak--No need to apologize at all!

The car is a GT, so it has disks and drums. It does had a proportioning valve and up until about a month ago, it had a single chamber MC. It was my understanding that you couldn't get a dual in ANY mustang until 67. I have a friend who's single failed on him recently and he ended up sideswiping a car in the process of slowing down--"Point it toward something soft." I didn't want to play that game, especially with my young son in the car.

Eventually, after winning the lottery, I'd like to go to disks all around, but that isn't in the cards. . . .yet.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Ok I got ya, good to know. Geez, I never really realized the total lack of safety in the pre 67' cars. I mean it seems nuts to offer a car with upgraded disc's and then have a singler master. I guess they wanted to make sure that steering wheel impales you completely when you don't stop instead of just poking thru the rib cage. I think I'd take drums and a dual over disc's and a single any day.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by pakrat@December 29, 2004, 1:12 PM
<snip> I guess they wanted to make sure that steering wheel impales you completely when you don't stop instead of just poking thru the rib cage. <snip>
Don't forget the "decap-a-tron" dashboard and those big ol' Pony Door Handles that just are waiting to rip out a kidney.

Yeah, they aren't the safest cars. But, they're darn cool and that's all that really matters, no?



It is amazing all of the things that never bothered you until you start shuttling your young child back and forth in the car . . .

BTW Pak, good to see you back in the saddle and online.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Paul@December 29, 2004, 5:09 PM
BTW Pak, good to see you back in the saddle and online.
Thanks, good to be back. Now that I'm at the crest of mending I'm hoping to get the car back in shape real soon. I swear sometimes at night I can still hear it writhing in agony in the garage.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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I also Bought the Russel Stainless braided Brake lines. I beleive the rubber lines on my car are the original. My Russel lines came with a bracket as someone else mentioned but it will still take a little engineering to get them mounted. The problems I am having is getting the old lines off without destroying the flare nut. They are on there pretty darn tight. I have soaked them with WD-40 claened them with a wire brush, tried heat and they won't budge. I would just cut the hardline but I don't have a flaring toold to re-flare the ends.

Any suggestions?

I may just leave it and have them done when I get ther tranny rebuilt.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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Put SS lines and new hoses on my ,...no leaks ...no problems... stops better ,i thinkl
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Well, I just finished installing the Russell SS Brake Lines on my mustang. Didn't have any fit issues, however I did need to make a bracket to bolt the bracket that came with the lines to. I uses a small piece of aluminum bent at a 90 degree, bolted that to the frame and bolted the Russell bracket to that one. Tightened everything up and bled the lines. No sings of leaks. Looks good.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Take it out for a spin...Let us know how they work...if you can tell a diff B)
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