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Mustang "E"

Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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I reciently bought a 69 sports roof. It has a 250 six, auto. The interesting thing is on each rear side is Mustang "E". I been able to find out so far that only 50 of these were built. Does anyone have any info about this?

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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Chasmag@January 27, 2005, 1:56 AM
I reciently bought a 69 sports roof. It has a 250 six, auto. The interesting thing is on each rear side is Mustang "E". I been able to find out so far that only 50 of these were built. Does anyone have any info about this?

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the "e" was the "economy" mustang, basically a stripped down fastback with a 250 six, auto or 3spd, and a like a 2.43 geared rearend not a lot of options available on the car either from what i can remember
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Yes, there were pretty rare. I think I have a Mustnag Monthly article on them. I'll see if I can dig it out.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/time...0/69/index.htm

http://pages.prodigy.net/d.hughmanick/specials.html (3/4 down the page)
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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While normally a stripped down model wouldn't be the type of thing to write home about, I'm guessing that over the years many of the "50" that were made were likely stripped of their "E" identity and may have even had V8 swaps prior to it being recognized as a rare item. In fact, you likely couldn't find anything close to the "Mustang E" emblem anywhere if you were to try and bring a car like this back from that. Given all of this I would certainly consider getting a Marti report and restoring this car back to 100% stock as it may be one of a handful of survivors if not the only one left in tact. Such a small unique piece of history could command some unusual attention at a show lined up next to dozens of other equally restored and other wise fully loaded V8's that are other wise indistinguishable.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 01:29 AM
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Thanks all for your answers. This could be really good news and really bad news. I bought the car intending to put in a 351w and rebuild it with some restomod features, however if what you are telling me is correct, and I don't doubt you, it may have significant value restored to original condition with the 250 six in it. I will have to order the marti report.

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Chasmag@January 28, 2005, 2:32 AM
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Thanks all for your answers. This could be really good news and really bad news. I bought the car intending to put in a 351w and rebuild it with some restomod features, however if what you are telling me is correct, and I don't doubt you, it may have significant value restored to original condition with the 250 six in it. I will have to order the marti report.

Thanks again.
Well, remember, it is your car afterall now so ultimately it is up to you to decide what to do with it and what you want from the car. I personally have always considered myself more of a temporary keeper of a piece of history than a Mustang owner so I had always tried to maintain my cars originality and not do anything that wasn't easily reversed. Now that my car has been wrecked, I am just the of the opposite mind, I will rescue it from the crusher but now I am able to modify it without guilt.

Many a folk have turned limited GT's into resotmods, real Shelby's into Eleahor's or 4x4's and more unthinkable things than I care to remember so you just have to decide what is more important to you, your personal desire for the Mustang you want or the Mustang hobby in general.

Good luck.

PS. A good compromise may be to make this car as it was, sell it and then fund the car you have always wanted to build.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by pakrat@January 28, 2005, 2:32 PM
Good luck.

PS. A good compromise may be to make this car as it was, sell it and then fund the car you have always wanted to build.
I think that's the right path as well. This is the kind of car that may not sell at a higher price in the regular market, but may do better in specialty auctions, via Hemmings, etc.

First thing I'd do is verify the numbers that it is in fact what it appears to be and everything matches up. Don't know that someone would add the E emblem to make a car appear rarer, but stranger things have happened.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Many a folk have turned limited GT's into resotmods, real Shelby's into Eleahor's or 4x4's and more unthinkable things than I care to remember so you just have to decide what is more important to you, your personal desire for the Mustang you want or the Mustang hobby in general.



OUCH!!!!!!!!!!! hey pak, i resemble that remark. but then again mygt is mine and i've had it for 20 years and will have it for at least another 20 so i don't really care much anyway
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Chasmag@January 28, 2005, 12:32 AM
B)
Thanks all for your answers. This could be really good news and really bad news. I bought the car intending to put in a 351w and rebuild it with some restomod features, however if what you are telling me is correct, and I don't doubt you, it may have significant value restored to original condition with the 250 six in it. I will have to order the marti report.

Thanks again.
In my opinion, youre doing the right thing
just check the numbers, and have fun restoring a piece of mustang history
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Hey guys. I've ordered the marti report for this car. I'm pretty sure it's a real "E". I wouldn't dare change this car. I feel really privileged to possibly own 1 of 2 of the most rarest 69 Mustangs ever built. This is like a dream. heck, I'm right up their with the worlds top collectors now. I'm planning on restoring this one to original condition, with the six. I have another 69 Grande coupe I was going to use for parts. I'll restore that one for a daily driver.

Anyone have a copy of Mustang Monthly September 1989. It has the article they did on the Mustang "E".

Charlie
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by bnickel@January 31, 2005, 10:06 AM
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!! hey pak, i resemble that remark. but then again mygt is mine and i've had it for 20 years and will have it for at least another 20 so i don't really care much anyway
Well, present party excluded of course.
When a car is owned that long and intended to stay I think you are pretty much entitled to do what you want with it, of course like I said in the begining, ultimately it is yours or anyones car to do with as you please, even though this was the last year for the original GT. If it was one of the few GT verts I'd be smackin you around though. You aren't striping your car of it's GT status are ya? I don't think you are going crazy with it are you?


What I more correctly meant to imply was that when seeking out a goal of building a custom or particular car in mind then I prefer to see (though that doesnt make it correct) that a person starts with a plainer more common car rather than start with a special car. After so long though I see nothing wrong with you finally evolving your car to what you have always wanted, or at least it seems less wrong. 50 cars is pretty small to mess with and I would feel the same way about any limited specialty item even if it were a bottom feeder originally.

Chasmag, I look forward to seeing how you progress with this car, I think you made a good choice and somewhere there is a collector looking for a car like this.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Hate to be the voice of reality / negativity, but.... :scratch:

I'd be careful about confusing "rare" & "unusual" with "valuable". The Economy package was a 6 cylinder in an otherwise "sporty" car. I'd think today's resale market would be very tight to find that special buyer who would actually want a 6-cylinder Mustang. Yeah, it's a rare/neat deal, but if you ever intend to sell it, IMO, you'd see more negativity from potential buyers (based on the 6), than desirability from the rare package. Of course if you intend to keep it and enjoy it forever, "value" doesn't really matter anyway... B)

I once owned a "1 of 2 built" 69 Cougar with a blue deluxe BENCH SEAT interior. Yeah, it was "rare", but certianly not valuable... :nono:
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by GT350Clone@January 31, 2005, 1:31 PM
Hate to be the voice of reality / negativity, but.... :scratch:

I'd be careful about confusing "rare" & "unusual" with "valuable". The Economy package was a 6 cylinder in an otherwise "sporty" car. I'd think today's resale market would be very tight to find that special buyer who would actually want a 6-cylinder Mustang. Yeah, it's a rare/neat deal, but if you ever intend to sell it, IMO, you'd see more negativity from potential buyers (based on the 6), than desirability from the rare package. Of course if you intend to keep it and enjoy it forever, "value" doesn't really matter anyway... B)

I once owned a "1 of 2 built" 69 Cougar with a blue deluxe BENCH SEAT interior. Yeah, it was "rare", but certianly not valuable... :nono:

hey Pak, i was just teasing ya. the car was originally lime gold with an ivy gold interior so there was no way the car was eber going back original while in my posession. i'm also adding a a deluxe interior in black in addition the acapulco blue with boss 302 blackouts. everything else i do will pretty much be bolt on stuff anyway so if i do ever decide to put it back original i can.

cloney, in the case of the "E" cars i think they are somewhat desirable, at least compared to a standard six banger car or even a similar car with a 302-2v.

i would say restore this one back stock to the "E" configuration but if you want a v8 go for it, i wouldn't change anything else though. my car being one if over 5,000 is a little different situation than yours and i also have no intentions of ever selling it either.
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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In a sea of V-8's, the "E" would stop me in my tracks. Just the fact that there are now less than 50 would intrigue me. Go all original and have the knowledge that alot of Mustang lovers support your decision.
-Jason
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