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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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Im confused

Why does my GT die out at a stoplight? Or just out of nowhere. Then it becomes very difficult to start up again.

Carb was rebuilt 6 months ago
Full Tune Up.
Plugs + Wires changed

It will run perfectly until I start driving it. Then out if nowhere it'll die out. I want to drive it but I don't trust it yet. I want it to be reliable. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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That's a tough one. Fuel filter? Bad ground wire?
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn
That's a tough one. Fuel filter? Bad ground wire?
New fuel pump and filter. I'm stumped. It wants to be driven but I don't trust it. Every time it leaves me stranded.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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Have you gotten your carb tuned ? Or checked the timing?
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyoung68
Have you gotten your carb tuned ? Or checked the timing?
Yes but not timing. I figured moving it from sea level to 7,000 feet messed up the timing?
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 06:12 AM
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Timing, I don't think that would cause it to die intermittently. Its never died while driving at speeds has it? Just when you come up to a stop or when you go to take off? What type of choke do you have and is it set properly?

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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:45 PM
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Seems like we keep coming back to the choke in these two threads. Sounds likely that it still needs adjustment.

My house is also at 7000, where are you located? I know when you take it to a higher elevation you will run more richly (less O2 in the mixture), so your carb might need different sized jets.
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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I'm guessing jet size, or choke sticking, or even electronic ignition cutting out!
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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It does sometimes die when I'm going about 40-45. This worries be because of braking and steering is almost lost. I'm in Flagstaff, AZ. The choke was not adjusted and was holding the butterfly shut even after it would warm up, but then I adjusted it so now it's completely open when warm. It runs great just out Of nowhere it will die out on me. I don't get it because if how great it runs..
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 11:18 PM
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What ignition set up do you have?
Your ignition module might be getting heat soaked causing it to cut out and not start until It cools down!
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ElkGroveFordGuy
What ignition set up do you have? Your ignition module might be getting heat soaked causing it to cut out and not start until It cools down!
I just replaced the ignition switch about 2 week ago. But idk how it's all set up? I'll have to look into that more !
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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James is talking about your distributor. Do you have the old style points type or does it have updated electronic dist?
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Exactly I'm talking about dist. / Ignition box!
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by izaacrudd
It does sometimes die when I'm going about 40-45. This worries be because of braking and steering is almost lost. I'm in Flagstaff, AZ. The choke was not adjusted and was holding the butterfly shut even after it would warm up, but then I adjusted it so now it's completely open when warm. It runs great just out Of nowhere it will die out on me. I don't get it because if how great it runs..
Changing altitude would not change timing. It could affect A/F ratio and require a change in main jets like we talked earlier.

However, neither timing being off a bit, jets too rich, or sticking choke would cause it to die at speed (when driving). You'd just notice it running rough and bad gas mileage.

My F150 choke sticks. And though it starts fine it quickly starts idling rough and will sometimes die until I open the choke butterfly. So if yours does this at a stoplight, lift the lid of the air cleaner and see where the choke butterfly is positioned.

Still, a sticking choke should not cause the engine to die while driving - just run rough.

If the accelerator pump in the carb (that sprays when you give it gas) is bad, that would only affect when you give it the gas - like when starting from a stop - not when running at speed.

I don't think a vacuum leak would cause it do die while driving - just run rough.

I don't think a bad plug or bad plug wire would cause it do die while driving - just run rough.

So it could be something electrical - maybe a bad coil wire or bad coil that feeds all the spark. Something in the distributor failing. Broken distributor cap? Bad condenser? A Cap, rotor, new points & condenser are a good routine tune up anyway if they haven't been done lately (along with new plugs).

All of your ground straps for engine to frame tight?

This might be a long shot but I drove an 80's Ford Van that would intermittent cut out. An old timer at a garage suggested replacing the ignition relay (on the firewall or by the battery). That fixed it.

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I just replaced the ignition switch about 2 week ago. But idk how it's all set up? I'll have to look into that more !
This concerns me because if there is an error in this wiring it could cause the engine to suddenly die. Did you have the problem before you changed the ignition switch? Can you double check the wiring? Loose wire in the connector plug?

Otherwise, maybe a fuel pump going out?

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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Hi , anyone running 17in aftermarket stlye steel rims and tires , please post pictures what tires size and comments any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by raul amador
Hi , anyone running 17in aftermarket stlye steel rims and tires , please post pictures what tires size and comments any advice is greatly appreciated.
I bet if you started your own thread with a proper title you would get more replies
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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This sounds like my car...I found out gas was mixed with rust that had previously formed in my gas tank for sitting for 8 years. You should get one of those clear fuel filters and see if your gas is a red color. My car would just die at high speeds because it was starving for gas cuz it was clogged up from rust particles. And sometimes it would take hours to start it back up
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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Thing is, It doesn't run rough.. It runs smooth. Then you drive it for a while and it starts to act up. It'll die and become hard to start up again..
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Changing altitude would not change timing. It could affect A/F ratio and require a change in main jets like we talked earlier. However, neither timing being off a bit, jets too rich, or sticking choke would cause it to die at speed (when driving). You'd just notice it running rough and bad gas mileage. My F150 choke sticks. And though it starts fine it quickly starts idling rough and will sometimes die until I open the choke butterfly. So if yours does this at a stoplight, lift the lid of the air cleaner and see where the choke butterfly is positioned. Still, a sticking choke should not cause the engine to die while driving - just run rough. If the accelerator pump in the carb (that sprays when you give it gas) is bad, that would only affect when you give it the gas - like when starting from a stop - not when running at speed. I don't think a vacuum leak would cause it do die while driving - just run rough. I don't think a bad plug or bad plug wire would cause it do die while driving - just run rough. So it could be something electrical - maybe a bad coil wire or bad coil that feeds all the spark. Something in the distributor failing. Broken distributor cap? Bad condenser? A Cap, rotor, new points & condenser are a good routine tune up anyway if they haven't been done lately (along with new plugs). All of your ground straps for engine to frame tight? This might be a long shot but I drove an 80's Ford Van that would intermittent cut out. An old timer at a garage suggested replacing the ignition relay (on the firewall or by the battery). That fixed it. This concerns me because if there is an error in this wiring it could cause the engine to suddenly die. Did you have the problem before you changed the ignition switch? Can you double check the wiring? Loose wire in the connector plug? Otherwise, maybe a fuel pump going out?
Good info!
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Oh that guy is full of ....good info
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