FAQ: T-5 Transmission Conversion
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Can anyone tell me about T-5 conversions? Is it worth it? Does it have to cost a fortune? What's the best T-5 to get? Are there adv/disadv to different clutch activation methods?
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These are some great questions. Why, if I didn't know any better, I'd say these are the kind of quality questions that only someone who has performed the conversion could put together in one efficient post. ![Wink](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
How about some handy links?
http://www.geocities.com/2bav8/5speed.html
http://www.moderndriveline.com/
http://www.windsor-fox.com/
http://www.mustangsteve.com/
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09...wap/index.shtml
T-5 ID Chart-> http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09...ap/index2.shtml
I suppose I can't leave Bob's out of the list. :P
http://www.gt350clone.com/T5%20Swap.htm
And Just for fun, here's 2MFF's Richmond 6 speed swap.
http://www.2mfffabshop.com/rod.htm
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How about some handy links?
http://www.geocities.com/2bav8/5speed.html
http://www.moderndriveline.com/
http://www.windsor-fox.com/
http://www.mustangsteve.com/
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09...wap/index.shtml
T-5 ID Chart-> http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09...ap/index2.shtml
I suppose I can't leave Bob's out of the list. :P
http://www.gt350clone.com/T5%20Swap.htm
And Just for fun, here's 2MFF's Richmond 6 speed swap.
http://www.2mfffabshop.com/rod.htm
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Links are great, but let's discuss this.
Tranny: Find yourself a World Class T5 out of an 88-93 Mustang. World Class means it will hold up to typical V8 torque ratings. Other non-World Class trannies are found in earlier Fords, and v6/i4 cars. I've heard you can use 94-95 trannies but you need a new input shaft. You'll need a new tranny mount, which can be purchased or made.
Bellhousings: You can use a stock vintage 3speed/4speed bellhousing if you want to use original mechanical linkage. If you want to use a cable clutch, you need to use the T5 bellhousing. Either bellhousing will work with hydraulic clutch.
Shifters: I believe a vintage shifter or T5 shifter will work.
Pedals: Vintage pedals need the quadrant welded on if you're going with the cable clutch. I believe some have used Foxbody pedal setups. 64.5 clutch pedals are different than other vintage pedals, but can be modified to work.
Disclaimer: I've not done this mod.....pondered on it a bit...but if someone with real experience disagrees, then I defer to them.
Tranny: Find yourself a World Class T5 out of an 88-93 Mustang. World Class means it will hold up to typical V8 torque ratings. Other non-World Class trannies are found in earlier Fords, and v6/i4 cars. I've heard you can use 94-95 trannies but you need a new input shaft. You'll need a new tranny mount, which can be purchased or made.
Bellhousings: You can use a stock vintage 3speed/4speed bellhousing if you want to use original mechanical linkage. If you want to use a cable clutch, you need to use the T5 bellhousing. Either bellhousing will work with hydraulic clutch.
Shifters: I believe a vintage shifter or T5 shifter will work.
Pedals: Vintage pedals need the quadrant welded on if you're going with the cable clutch. I believe some have used Foxbody pedal setups. 64.5 clutch pedals are different than other vintage pedals, but can be modified to work.
Disclaimer: I've not done this mod.....pondered on it a bit...but if someone with real experience disagrees, then I defer to them.
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Originally posted by Mberglo@June 24, 2004, 9:24 AM
Shifters: I believe a vintage shifter or T5 shifter will work.
Shifters: I believe a vintage shifter or T5 shifter will work.
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They actually make a stock appearence shifter that fits the T5 it's about $130. I have a 93 T5 conversion in my Shelby. If you are going to drive the Hwys, its a must. Total, it cost me about $2K.
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Just FYI, on mine a I used a Hurst aftermarket T-5 shifter base (left over from a previous Foxbody I owned) and eBay-scored a small-dinero #1406 Hurst shifter handle that bolts on directly and puts the shifter right in my hand.
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Originally posted by LMan@June 24, 2004, 11:08 AM
Just FYI, on mine a I used a Hurst aftermarket T-5 shifter base (left over from a previous Foxbody I owned) and eBay-scored a small-dinero #1406 Hurst shifter handle that bolts on directly and puts the shifter right in my hand.
The problem with stock-appearing shifter options is, to me, they appear, well, stock
Just FYI, on mine a I used a Hurst aftermarket T-5 shifter base (left over from a previous Foxbody I owned) and eBay-scored a small-dinero #1406 Hurst shifter handle that bolts on directly and puts the shifter right in my hand.
The problem with stock-appearing shifter options is, to me, they appear, well, stock
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That is definately the way I'll go with my eventual swap.
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Originally posted by Maj.Malfunction@June 24, 2004, 3:16 PM
Has anyone experienced any vibrations from increased pinion angles...I swear i,ve heard of this.
Has anyone experienced any vibrations from increased pinion angles...I swear i,ve heard of this.
http://www.quickperformance.com/PinionAngle.html
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Shouldn't be a problem in most T5 conversions, unless you have a poorly made crossmember. I used the Ron Morris x-member, and came up with 3* of tilt back, and a 2* pinion up. Just about perfect. B)
The whole T5 conversion business is really about 4 seperate threads, as there are many routes that can be taken with the bell, clutch, linkage, shifter, pedals, etc....
Since my motor is already a 50oz late-model, I used all late model flywheel, clutch, bell, plate, & fork. No adaptors needed.
Since i didn't have any clutch linkage already, I decided that cable or hydraulic would be good options. Some folks have a lot of trouble with Tri-Y headers and cable, so I just went hydraulic to avoid making any exhaust changes.
I used a 92 T5 that I had to rebuild myself.
My preferred option would have been a new T5Z.
I got a Hurst shifter with the tranny. Has positive stops (very important), but the stick was WAY too short. Hurst sells plenty of different sticks, and I found one that's 8" up & 5" back - worked perfect for me. I'll get the stick info together and start a new thread one of these days...
I bought a pedal set off Ebay, and used latemodel pedal pads.
All in all, it was a pretty easy swap. More details are on my webpage.
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Shouldn't be a problem in most T5 conversions, unless you have a poorly made crossmember. I used the Ron Morris x-member, and came up with 3* of tilt back, and a 2* pinion up. Just about perfect. B)
The whole T5 conversion business is really about 4 seperate threads, as there are many routes that can be taken with the bell, clutch, linkage, shifter, pedals, etc....
Since my motor is already a 50oz late-model, I used all late model flywheel, clutch, bell, plate, & fork. No adaptors needed.
Since i didn't have any clutch linkage already, I decided that cable or hydraulic would be good options. Some folks have a lot of trouble with Tri-Y headers and cable, so I just went hydraulic to avoid making any exhaust changes.
I used a 92 T5 that I had to rebuild myself.
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I got a Hurst shifter with the tranny. Has positive stops (very important), but the stick was WAY too short. Hurst sells plenty of different sticks, and I found one that's 8" up & 5" back - worked perfect for me. I'll get the stick info together and start a new thread one of these days...
I bought a pedal set off Ebay, and used latemodel pedal pads.
All in all, it was a pretty easy swap. More details are on my webpage.
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FINALLY!
My Transmission Swap Pages (Version 1.1) are FINALLY done. I'm SURE there's plenty more content that CAN be added, but it's a start!
If you want to bookmark my swap page for future reference / posting, the full url is: http://www.gt350clone.com/T5%20Swap.htm
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My Transmission Swap Pages (Version 1.1) are FINALLY done. I'm SURE there's plenty more content that CAN be added, but it's a start!
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If you want to bookmark my swap page for future reference / posting, the full url is: http://www.gt350clone.com/T5%20Swap.htm
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Originally posted by GT350Clone@September 2, 2004, 1:25 PM
FINALLY!
My Transmission Swap Pages (Version 1.1) are FINALLY done. I'm SURE there's plenty more content that CAN be added, but it's a start!
If you want to bookmark my swap page for future reference / posting, the full url is: http://www.gt350clone.com/T5%20Swap.htm
FINALLY!
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My Transmission Swap Pages (Version 1.1) are FINALLY done. I'm SURE there's plenty more content that CAN be added, but it's a start!
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If you want to bookmark my swap page for future reference / posting, the full url is: http://www.gt350clone.com/T5%20Swap.htm
Lots of great stuff there Bob.
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