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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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I have a circa-1970 429 engine with 4-barrel heads, and a C6 tranny. It's been sitting in a barn since 1984 and I'm finally ready to start rebuilding it. I'm looking for ideas:
- engine buildup info from anyone who's gone through this with a 429/460 block
- whether it's a good idea to keep the C6 or go with a C4
- body ideas

I'm not looking to build a race motor, but want around 400HP. Transmission is up in the air... I'm sure the C6 can be rebuilt, but I don't want to use it if it wastes 20% of my HP. I would prefer a Mustang body, but don't want to squeeze it in where it doesn't fit.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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i think youll have to modify the shock towers to fit in a 429
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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...in a 66? Thats major surgery....even a 67-68 has trouble with that.....but heck, everything's been done at least once

Crites Resto makes a 429-in-a-67 swap kit you can look into. You need a new hood, and no power steering or maual trans. Its nose-heavy too, obviously.



I had a 429 with the DOVE-C heads, mild cam, with a C6 once.....great lowend and midrange. You wont need more than a mild build to burn your tires to the cord...assuming you can shoehorn it in there ...but it will handle like a pig on rollerskates.

Id vote for C6. It would take a heavily built C4 to withstand that motor.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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i built a 460 not to long ago. it needed a lot of work and was sitting for years like yours. there is a huge aftermarket for the 429 but the engine hp output is really based on how much money you have. there are a few good forums out there but the best one i go to is www.corral.net they have a 351c (thats my baby) and a 429/460 only section. hope this helps in any way
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Thanks for the input. I'll check the other forums too, thanks 69Mach1.

Couple of points of clarification:
- I don't want to modify shock towers, so I'm looking for something it'll drop in easily (Torino, Cougar, Fairlane, 69-73 stang...)
- I am NOT planning to put the 429 in my 66
- I already fight manual steering, so I need enough room for p/s.
- Thought maybe a C4 (or Toploader?) would lighten it enough to compensate for the heavier engine, but maybe it wouldn't help much given where the weight is...
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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You will be wanting an intermediate (Torino, Fairlane, etc) if you want to retain PS, as you say. Ive always like the 66-67 Fairlanes myself
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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I've never heard of bolting a C4 to a bigblock. I don't think anyone has a bellhousing for that.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Me neither, it would take quite a bit of work to even ATTEMPT to make one fit, Nathan
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Actually, FORD has a bellhousing for that!
The C4 was used behind some 351M's in the late 70's. A 351M/400 shares the bellhousing bolt pattern with the 429/460. I also believe that Performance Automatic (or somebody) makes one for the 429 - especially since they even make a C4 - FE bellhousing.

400hp is an easy goal - mild cam, intake & headers will get you close.

Body-wise - a 69-70 Cougar would be a different choice. The 429/460 also BOLTS IN to a 79-94 Fox-body Mustang, using a swap kit.
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Thanks cloney - the C4 is definitely tempting. I would need to find one and have it rebuilt by a perf shop, but that shouldn't be hard - might even be able to sell the C6 on ebay and cover a chunk of the cost.

I had a 70 Cougar in high school, but it was pretty much trashed before I got it. I like the curved body line on the 70, and the headlights and tailights.

I've never had a Fox-body, but I think that would be the way to go if I decide I want to spend some time at the 1/4-track.
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Go with a 70 or 71 Torino. Not many around and they look cool fixed up nice.

Or the Fairlane, just they are usually more $$$
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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I don't care for the Fairlanes IMO. A fox body would be rippin' with that engine, I just can't wait to see the result, Nathan
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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What about a 71-73 Mustang Fastback? I love the lines on that.

how about a big fat cruiser? get a 69-71 Galaxie convertible and just have a nice big torquey motor to push that barge.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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def go for the C4 over the C6. i have both sitting in my garage and i decided to go with the C4 with my 351c and my brothe is using the C6 for his 429. there is a huge difference in weight and size between the 2
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