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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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1969 grande parts

Finally got my hands on a 69 coupe project with minimal to no rust and I'm pumped! It is mostly complete and has a practically brand new 460 and c6 transmission in it, the only things I'm worried about finding are the interior parts, I'd like to have the original looking center console but the only place I've found one is eBay, can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Also the oil pan hangs down a little low, does anyone know a smaller or a place to get a custom one??
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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What kind of oil pan is it? Is it an aftermarket pan or you just don't like the height of the original one? I would check Jegs or Summit for a good aluminum oil pan first, they specialize in racing and altered parts for classics.

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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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must be something non stock ..mine never was a problem ..
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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Here's a quick picture of what I'm talking about, I just dropped off some transmission and oil fluid at my buddies shop who's tuning it for me,
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:02 AM
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Yeah, that's definitely not stock. A regular oil pan is about half that depth. There is no way Ford would sell an oil pan for a street car that is lower than the suspension. On the bright side, your engine has probably been extremely well lubricated! On the downside, try opening up your wallet to fill that keg every 10-30 thousand miles!
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Well I do like that bright side haha

The last problem that I'm facing at the moment is that the starter doesn't want to start the car when it gets warm, I have long tubes on there and I know that's the reason why it gets so hot, but I'm wondering if a mini high torque starter would help? I've heard for some it does and others just put on shorties, what do you guys think?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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it looks like you had to remove the crossbar that bolts under the car ..that may be why the pan looks low .. i had to remove mine too for the 429 to fit ...
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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it looks like you had to remove the crossbar that bolts under the car ..that may be why the pan looks low .. i had to remove mine too for the 429 to fit ...
Should I try and find a smaller oil pan? Or is it just a personal preference thing?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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Should I try and find a smaller oil pan? Or is it just a personal preference thing?
just paint it black and as long as it`s higher than a speed bump you`re ok ..
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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Haha ya that what I'm worried about though, but I guess that's the cost of stuffing a 460 in there lol

The only other issue I need to solve is the starter, it won't start when it gets warm, any thoughts??
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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The only other issue I need to solve is the starter, it won't start when it gets warm, any thoughts??
the most common reason that is with a big block ford is a worn timing chain .. the slack gathers on the high side causing the starter to kick back due to high timing at initial startup .. play with the timing .. lower it a bit .. on my car i actually have an ignition interrupter to let me get the motor spinning before i turn on the spark .. ( a toggle switch ) HA !!!
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Haha ill definitely check that out, right now my buddy is tuning it up for me and I should have it back by tonight, I've looked up the problem with 460 specifically and some say a mini high torque starter would do the trick, what do you think?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Haha ill definitely check that out, right now my buddy is tuning it up for me and I should have it back by tonight, I've looked up the problem with 460 specifically and some say a mini high torque starter would do the trick, what do you think?
when it gives you trouble starting unhook the coil wire and see if it spins faster .. that would prove my timing kickback theory .. if it does`nt spin better then perhaps a high torque starter is due .. ford made a factory high torque starter to some affect .. it has the starter wire bolted to the starter about an inch nearer the end of the starter .. hence longer internal wiring ..
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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when it gives you trouble starting unhook the coil wire and see if it spins faster .. that would prove my timing kickback theory .. if it does`nt spin better then perhaps a high torque starter is due .. ford made a factory high torque starter to some affect .. it has the starter wire bolted to the starter about an inch nearer the end of the starter .. hence longer internal wiring ..
Gotcha I'll check that out tomorrow when I get the car back, thanks for the help and I'll be sure to keep you guys updated.

Next on the agenda is to find interior grande parts lol
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Maybe this is just me, but I made the mistake of putting a gel battery in my mustang instead of a dry cell battery. I learned quickly that gel batteries have long battery life, but little cranking power. Dry cells are made for cranking power. I often found myself in your predicament. After shutting the mustang off I would try to start it again and since the car was hot, I would hear the starter grind against the flywheel because the gel battery was out of juice. After putting a dry cell battery in I have not had any problems.
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Ill definitely check that out as well! I'm honestly not sure what kind of battery it has in it now haha
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Ok so I fixed the starting problem with a high torque mini starter, and now on to the next one lol on the free way she slowly climes in temperature to about 240, but around town she stays at about 190-200, it has a 2 core radiator, could it need a 4 core? Thanks for the help guys
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make sure you ( DO ) have a thermostat first ..at speed the coolant can flow faster than it can work ... then check your radiator hoses to make sure they have an inner spring .. you may have a hose collapsing at speed ..a bigger radiator is always better on big motors ..
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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We pulled the thermostat the day after it happened and it looked good, but I haven't check the hoses for springs yet, that'll be my next plan of attack, I'm also gonna go to the junk yard today to see if I can find a 4 core radiator that's in good condition
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