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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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Electronics package outputs?

what outputs does the nav have? i have spent several years building car stereo systems and plan on doing the same in the mustang, but im debating on getting the electronic package to take full advantage of the sync instead of getting an aftermarket HU. however i am a little worried about the output, does it even have rca outputs? im worried i will have to use a line out converter, so what outputs does it have?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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no one knows?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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The factory NAV unit has no expansion capability and does not have RCA low level outputs. You will have to swipe signal from the your low level speaker outputs (pre-factory amplifiers) and use a OEM integration proesser like a RF 360-2, JL Clean Sweep, or an Audio Control LC series processer. I have the NAV with Sync and have added a very capable system while leaving the Factory NAV in place. I used an Audio Control DQL (Active 8 channel LOC with crossover and equalizer) found here http://www.crutchfield.com/s_161DQL8...tml?search=dql. It provides channel summing, roll off canceling and doubles as a line driver. It also allows for the remote control of the sub volume and system volume. It pushes ultra-clean signal to my amps, all JL Audio and, and it has made the issues with traditional OEM integration a thing of the past. I have one 12" Boston Acoustic G3 12" http://www.crutchfield.com/p_065G312...ston+Acoustics on this amp http://www.crutchfield.com/p_136J250...-1.html?tp=115. I elected to use the factory 8" subs which have proven very capable in the mid-bass range and I have swapped all my stock 6x8's with these http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KFCP...ml?tp=92&avf=N. My 6x8's and factory 8's are being powered by this amp http://www.crutchfield.com/p_136G660...00.html?tp=115. My system is super clean and absolutely pounds for a single sub system. OEM integration iseasier now then it ever has been. My car looks completely stock minus the trunk and the remote bass control **** and that is the way I want it. I have completely retained full functionality of my NAV and SYNC and my system is as good as any system I've heard or seen in a Mustang - assuming reasonably the same investment as I have into mine. Hope this helps... good luck.

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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thanks, and i figured i would unfortunately have to use a clean sweep or a 360
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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Get an Audison Bit One or Bit Ten. Much more expansion.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dSINtia
I used an Audio Control DQL (Active 8 channel LOC with crossover and equalizer) found here http://www.crutchfield.com/s_161DQL8...tml?search=dql.
$599 WOW! $429 from Sonic Electronix but that's still more than I am looking to spend. Which device would you recommend if I ONLY want to add a subwoofer in the trunk of my Premium GT? I would probably use a 1 or 2 channel Class-D amp.

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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a generic line out converter
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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You have to attach the line out converter to the sub outputs though, as the system removes bass from the rear speakers as you crank the volume.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:15 AM
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Sorry if this has been covered before, but I have a related question. Has anyone checked to see if there is a connector in the trunk where the stock subwoofer/amp for the Shaker 1000 would have hooked up if it had one? The reason I'm asking is sometimes we (Ford) use common wiring looms for areas of the car and the connectors for components that are not used are just left empty. I would check myself but don't have the car yet.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LEwis26
You have to attach the line out converter to the sub outputs though, as the system removes bass from the rear speakers as you crank the volume.
and what makes you say that?
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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and what makes you say that?
Because it's a known fact that it does it to protect the speakers from being overdriven from excess bass at high volume.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LEwis26
Because it's a known fact that it does it to protect the speakers from being overdriven from excess bass at high volume.
and how does it do that
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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As you turn the volume up, the amount of bass sent to the rear speakers is lowered.

So if you hooked up a line out converter for subs, as you crank the volume, the subs would not get louder, but quieter due to the lesser amount of low frequency signals being sent to those rear speakers.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LEwis26
As you turn the volume up, the amount of bass sent to the rear speakers is lowered.

So if you hooked up a line out converter for subs, as you crank the volume, the subs would not get louder, but quieter due to the lesser amount of low frequency signals being sent to those rear speakers.
That makes sense, but I've never seen anyone mention it before. I think caps is looking for proof. Probably 95% of the people tapping into speaker wire for their amps are using the rear speakers since they are easily accessible.

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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I'm only going off what I have heard, as I do not have my 2012 5.0 yet.

I would still rather tap the factory sub cables and run longer RCA's. Do it right the first time.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LEwis26
As you turn the volume up, the amount of bass sent to the rear speakers is lowered.
how does it do it though:Popcorn:
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That makes sense, but I've never seen anyone mention it before.
it does if you have a basic knowledge of car audio. the only way to limit a frequency is with a capacitor (not the ones that people sell that go on their power wires to work as a battery) that is mounted on a two/three way speaker, or a cap that is in a crossover


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I think caps is looking for proof. Probably 95% of the people tapping into speaker wire for their amps are using the rear speakers since they are easily accessible.
thats exactly right, i love coming to new forums and seeing the knowledge level of the users when it comes to my domain
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LEwis26
I'm only going off what I have heard, as I do not have my 2012 5.0 yet.

I would still rather tap the factory sub cables and run longer RCA's. Do it right the first time.
that would be an option for most, but i plan running on running speakers in the stock sub location and running a sub setup that would require a pretty constant low level voltage instead of a varying high level voltage
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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i think im just gonna get either an Audison Bit One, or the new Rockford 3sixty.3

either way i have a bit to figure it out
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Bit One will give you SO much more flexibility than the 3Sixty. If you have an Audison dealer in your area, ask about the Bit Ten. It is a simpler 3-way active version of the Bit One. Look into the JBL MS-8 as well.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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You know Chrysler used to have these awesome things inside the head units or amplifiers called active crossovers, or filters, call it what you may. I'm just thinking here that something like this could be going on in the Mustang. I'm just speculating. I've never done this before. Stereoz iz not my theeng.
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