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Old 3/17/13, 03:49 PM
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Smile When the dust settles on the S550, how will S197 be viewed?

When all is said and done with debut of the 2015, how or what do you think the S197 will be relegated to? I see that separate message boards are set up on a car that does not exist publicly e.g Mustang 6G.com. We have sub-forums for older generation Mustangs on this board, but how many of you actually to go to those other sub-forums? Will ours become the same?
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well in a year this will be a subforum for an older model. It happens. I think in the end these will be viewed as part of the retro revival, and if it weren't for the Mustang, the Camaro and Chally wouldn't have done the same. As for how people view them? Who knows. I love the SN95's even if they don't get much love anymore for example.
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Just because.

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S197 will probably have a better following than most people expect. It really is the generation where the car returned to its roots, both in styling and in function. It caused GM and Chrysler to bring back their pony cars. The S550 car might be the first true "global" Mustang, but it wouldn't be the same without the 05-14 cars.
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I think GM pushed ford not the other way around .I think we would still be driving 325 horse V8's if it weren't for the rebirth of the Camaro.
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Originally Posted by Burke985
I think GM pushed ford not the other way around .I think we would still be driving 325 horse V8's if it weren't for the rebirth of the Camaro.
GM stopped production of the Camaro and Firebird in 2002. Ford redesigned the Mustang for the 2005 model year and had almost five years without any real competition. While I do think the Camaro served as a catalyst to push the updated powertrains, they were being developed before the Camaro was launched.
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Steve, i think the GTO, bastard as it was, could have been a factor. It was there when the Camaro was not, and brought a new level with their 6.0 and 400hp in a sport coupe. Ford must have seen the writing on the wall, even if the goat impressed not in the design department.
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Steve, i think the GTO, bastard as it was, could have been a factor. It was there when the Camaro was not, and brought a new level with their 6.0 and 400hp in a sport coupe. Ford must have seen the writing on the wall, even if the goat impressed not in the design department.
Good point. That may have been a sign of the impending Camaro and its potential power, causing Ford to look for replacements for the aging 4.6 engine.
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S197 will probably have a better following than most people expect.
Agreed, it will really be interesting to see how the S-197 does after the new car has been around for a few years, I suppose that could best be charted by how much aftermarket attention the car still receives and if like the fox cars at some point start receiving restoration attention in a relatively short amount of time.
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Originally Posted by max5ive0
Steve, i think the GTO, bastard as it was, could have been a factor. It was there when the Camaro was not, and brought a new level with their 6.0 and 400hp in a sport coupe. Ford must have seen the writing on the wall, even if the goat impressed not in the design department.
I seriously think that car is going to go down as nearly the most underrated car of that decade.
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Originally Posted by bob

Agreed, it will really be interesting to see how the S-197 does after the new car has been around for a few years, I suppose that could best be charted by how much aftermarket attention the car still receives and if like the fox cars at some point start receiving restoration attention in a relatively short amount of time.
I think the aftermarket could still be strong for the S197 after a few years. The SN95 market is still troopin. Not as strong as it once was but still selling many parts. Plus i noticed AM did a project build with an old Fox and it might spread the idea. Either way whatever happens, i expect the market to hold strong. Its the last retro mustang and some special models can definitely become collectors items
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I think the S-197 will have a lot of staying power, personally. The S550 is going to be polarizing, so a significant contingent will likely view the S-197 as the last "real" Mustang. At least for a while.

They'll get to fight it out with the people who buy an S550 just because it's the new hotness.

Me? I'm just happy that I was in a position to buy a Mustang at a time point where they perform better than they ever have, and still have enough retro flavor to pay homage to the originals. Best of both worlds, and I plan on owning it for a LONG time to come.
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Outside of DI i think the S197 will own the S550. In terms of a world car, whenever a car goes world wide it cheapens EVERYTHING! Ill be holding onto my '13 or going back to a terminator.
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Originally Posted by PSUpony
When all is said and done with debut of the 2015, how or what do you think the S197 will be relegated to? I see that separate message boards are set up on a car that does not exist publicly e.g Mustang 6G.com. We have sub-forums for older generation Mustangs on this board, but how many of you actually to go to those other sub-forums? Will ours become the same?

You realise that there is already a sub-forum for S550 on here, right?

https://themustangsource.com/f806/

I have a feeling I'm going to love S550, but that doesn't mean I'll love my S197 any less.

Every generation of Mustang has earned its place in the history books. Our cars will be no different.

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I just hope it comes out as sort of a modern new edge design. To me that would be perfect. The sn95 was still easily identifiable as a mustang, but looked almost nothing like any others before it. Thats the same goal of the design team for the s550. Make it new, but keep it mustang.
Anyone else agree?
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I think it will have a fallowing same as the original mustangs of 1965-1973.
Personally there are people that don't consider the fox body mustangs to be as a true " mustang" , they always see them for what the original was up until 1973, sadly I'm one of those people, I just don't see anything in fox body, doesn't give me any emotion. Because s197 is a retro design to those years, whoever loved those old ones, will love these, same will go for challenger in the future.
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Unless you have a Shelby or Boss, your Mustang will depreciate like all other autos. It will be an old used car in 10-15 years and worth about $3,000 on average.

I think the Coyote GT is awesome, I love my Grabber Blue '13, but it is a mass produced car. Not especially rare.

Apologies in advance to all I've offended, but do a quick Craiglist search for 15 year old 1998 Mustangs. Seems like the price range is between $1,000 and $4,000.
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Originally Posted by paulw
Unless you have a Shelby or Boss, your Mustang will depreciate like all other autos. It will be an old used car in 10-15 years and worth about $3,000 on average.

I think the Coyote GT is awesome, I love my Grabber Blue '13, but it is a mass produced car. Not especially rare.

Apologies in advance to all I've offended, but do a quick Craiglist search for 15 year old 1998 Mustangs. Seems like the price range is between $1,000 and $4,000.
Typically prices are delegated to the extremely low horsepower 3.8s of those years. Im not saying the GTs dont get low, but you typically looking at close to 5k, give or take, for a clean version. Lets not forget, thats probably one of the least desierable body styles only second to the Mustang II. There are still plenty of 99-04 GTs selling in the above 10K range.

Is it going to depreciate? Of course. Do I think Ill be able to find one for 3K? No unless its in some serious need of restoration.
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Ford always had an idea of the new modular 5.0. They were playing around with the CAMMER 5.0. In the end we get the new 5.0 I love my SN 95 97 GT Convirtable it sure has some smooth curves.


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