Shelby Detective Needed
12/3/12, 07:07 AM
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Shelby Detective Needed
Need help in figuring out what kind of Shelby this car is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-...item1c2e0d0ea6
The door certificate label has a VIN with the year code of an A for 2010 but shows a build date of 10/20/2008. Yes 2008. The rear seats have the extended headrest as as used in 2011 and later, not in 2010.
The carfax looks like the car was made 2/9/2009 and dealer inspected in Nebraska 8/27/2010 and titled 4/5/2012 in Michigan.
I assume it was a collector car but the production dates don't make sense to me. Anyone with any idea what is going on with car?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-...item1c2e0d0ea6
The door certificate label has a VIN with the year code of an A for 2010 but shows a build date of 10/20/2008. Yes 2008. The rear seats have the extended headrest as as used in 2011 and later, not in 2010.
The carfax looks like the car was made 2/9/2009 and dealer inspected in Nebraska 8/27/2010 and titled 4/5/2012 in Michigan.
I assume it was a collector car but the production dates don't make sense to me. Anyone with any idea what is going on with car?
12/3/12, 07:30 AM
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That is likely a pre-production '10 GT500 that would not have been sold to the public initially. Could have been resold to the public later, but initially could have been a test model or executive car for a Ford employee. Its low serial # (100) and early build date are the tell tale signs.
The history report also makes me think it was a factory Ford demo or executive car. It was built in October 2008. It was shipped to a dealer in Michigan February 9, 2009. It doesn't show sold for that date, so it was likely a "demo" that was driven for a few thousand miles by a Ford employee or exec. At 3188 miles (August 26, 2010) it was serviced in Wichita, KS for steering, wheel, and tire issues - alignment, perhaps?). Then it was finally titled April 5, 2012 when it was at auction in Michigan with 3478 miles on the odometer.
Keep in mind that a model year of vehicle (2010, in this case) can be sold no earlier than January 1st of the calendar year before (January 1, 2009, in this case), so its February 9, 2009 in-use date is perfectly legit.
The history report also makes me think it was a factory Ford demo or executive car. It was built in October 2008. It was shipped to a dealer in Michigan February 9, 2009. It doesn't show sold for that date, so it was likely a "demo" that was driven for a few thousand miles by a Ford employee or exec. At 3188 miles (August 26, 2010) it was serviced in Wichita, KS for steering, wheel, and tire issues - alignment, perhaps?). Then it was finally titled April 5, 2012 when it was at auction in Michigan with 3478 miles on the odometer.
Keep in mind that a model year of vehicle (2010, in this case) can be sold no earlier than January 1st of the calendar year before (January 1, 2009, in this case), so its February 9, 2009 in-use date is perfectly legit.
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12/3/12, 07:59 AM
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12/3/12, 08:11 AM
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From the e-window sticker I see it was ordered for a C Laskey with a TAG code 303M016. Anyone know who he is. Also the ews is in the new wide format not the 2010 format. Mustang VIN S?M 100075 was for a J Farley TAG Code 014V639 and the ews has an invoice date of 7/30/09, some eight months after the VIN SN 100100.
12/4/12, 10:58 AM
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Need help in figuring out what kind of Shelby this car is...The door certificate label has a VIN with the year code of an A for 2010 but shows a build date of 10/20/2008...looks like the car was made 2/9/2009 and dealer inspected in Nebraska 8/27/2010 and titled 4/5/2012 in Michigan. I assume it was a collector car but the production dates don't make sense to me. Anyone with any idea what is going on with car?
http://services.forddirect.fordvehic...BP8JS3A5100100 Not a lot of info there...
It was a Ford lease; a Mustang originally owned by Ford. Five Oh Brian is likely correct.
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12/4/12, 03:29 PM
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I wish I had the money. But having two 2010 Mustang GT's, one for me and one for my son, a 2 year old F150 Lariat, and having just purchased a C-Max for my wife, another car purchase is not in site.
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12/4/12, 03:40 PM
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12/4/12, 04:02 PM
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It was not a Ford lease nor used by an executive. The M in the tag number suggests it belonged to Marketing (i.e media fleet). Laskey is the person who initially ordered it for the Marketing group. It was probably assigned to the KS area to be driven by journalists there and therefor serviced at a dealer there. The Marketing cars are usually pre-production vehicles and are ordered way before actual production begins.
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12/4/12, 07:25 PM
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It was not a Ford lease nor used by an executive. The M in the tag number suggests it belonged to Marketing (i.e media fleet). Laskey is the person who initially ordered it for the Marketing group. It was probably assigned to the KS area to be driven by journalists there and therefor serviced at a dealer there. The Marketing cars are usually pre-production vehicles and are ordered way before actual production begins.
I think this is the correct answer. How else would you explain a 2010 made 2 years before the model year?
12/4/12, 07:27 PM
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Nope... Stripes are different as is the rear seat. No axle code either on the door sticker. There is more to this story
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12/4/12, 11:33 PM
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Also in my reply was my guess that this GT500 was likely a preproduction car for a Ford exec, and that guess was supported by our resident Ford social media friend, Andrea, several posts up.
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12/5/12, 11:40 AM
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Snoopy49). Let me know if you decide you gotta grab one! I can help you find one that's close. Just send me your zip code and I'll look in your area for whatever specs you need.
Happy Holidays, everyone!
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12/5/12, 04:01 PM
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It was not an executive lease, it was for the media. Executives do not get pre-production cars as their leases, it just doesn't happen. The "M" in the tag number clearly shows what type of vehicle it was for. Management and Executive leases have different letters in their tag number on the window sticker. Before vehicles are auctioned by Ford they will be cleaned and repaired of damage, hence the different rear seat and the fascia was probably repainted but the stripes never replaced.
12/5/12, 07:00 PM
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Impossible Brian. In oct 08 they were building 09 cars and were not tooled up for completely different 10 cars
Auto manufacturers can sell a model year on January 1st the year before, and it can be built before that, as I noted in my original reply. Therefor, it is possible for a car company to build a car late in the calendar year (like October 2008, in this example), sell it just after the new year (or put it in use as a demo/exec car February 2009, in this example), even though the model year is the next calendar year (2010 GT500, in this example).
Also in my reply was my guess that this GT500 was likely a preproduction car for a Ford exec, and that guess was supported by our resident Ford social media friend, Andrea, several posts up.
Also in my reply was my guess that this GT500 was likely a preproduction car for a Ford exec, and that guess was supported by our resident Ford social media friend, Andrea, several posts up.
12/5/12, 09:57 PM
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I just checked here on TMS for threads back in late 2008 and there were plenty of spy shots of 2010 GT500's, so 2010's existed as preproduction cars in the fall of 2008. Do a search for yourself if you don't believe me.