2015 Challenger SRT Hellcat
 

supercharged 6.2

I remember when Dodge didn't debut the Hellcat at one of their auto shows and people were upset because that had been anticipating it.

Forged Internals ftw!

I can't wait to see one on the road, I love the new challengers. The 2015 392 Scat Pack is an awesome looking car as well.

DAT EXHAUST SOUND! FFFUUUU********K!!!

I so wasnt expecting that, my speakers nearly blew out! Lawd that sounded amazing!!!!

Here is a better sounding video.

This is going to be one nasty car boys and girls. It's got forged pistons and connecting rods, forged crankshaft, specially designed aluminum cylinder heads, TREMEC 6 speed transmission, (which is optional), front AND rear Brembo brakes, and a pretty cool feature that is the driver's side delete parking lamp allowing cool air into the cold air intake. And it's got 2 key fobs, one is black and one is red. The black is to limit the car's potential and the red key is the "key to fun", so to speak. lol
NASTY! :nice:

If only they could take it below 3800 lbs at least.

Wonder if weight reduction was a goal? And if any was done at all.

I personally doubt it. I've always seen Dodge/Chrysler to throw more power into something if they want their new design to perform quicker.

Even the Super Bee Charger doesn't shed much weight, with it weighing in at 3,961 lbs.

So apparently the Hellcat V8 is going to be 6.2 liters with almost 12 pound of boost.

This is my prognostication for power;

The 6.4 Hemi makes 485 horsepower in SRT form so all things being equal a reduction in size would lower power to 470 horsepower.

I didn't see anything about compression ratio on the 6.4 or 6.2 so I'm going to guess its around 11:1 with the 6.4 and will most likely drop to around 9:1 or so with the blower, maybe bit less which chops about 4% for every full point of compression lost so N/A all things being equal that would be around 433 horsepower.

The blower peaks at nearly twelve pounds of boost and each pound is worth roughly about 20hp so the blower is going to add around 232 horsepower.

So I can see the Hellcat making in the neighborhood of 665-670 (maybe 680) horsepower which would give it a comfortable margin over the Viper motor.

Has anybody seen a firm HP number yet?

No numbers yet,.....I think they are keeping it "hush, hush" until it gets closer to release.
Should be interesting.

They'll probably try to beat the GT500 by 5-10HP for bragging rights.

Yeah they keep adding power but do NOTHING to make it lighter or handle better. Mustang FTW

Nice engine though, sounds really good.

Are you sure about that?!

More details about the LA platform:
http://www.ontariostreetcar.com/tag/...ge-challenger/

Well its about time lol

I read an article the other day stating that Dodge is expecting the Hellcat to produce more HP than the Viper.

Yes it will have more than 640 HP.

Great breakdown. But I read that they don't want it to beat the viper in power. Maybe they'll underrate it?

Interesting. That'd be sweet.

2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat - Exterior Dimensions

Wheelbase 116.17 Inches
Track, Front 64.0 Inches
Track, Rear 63.7 Inches
Overall Length 197.5 Inches
Overall Width 75.7 Inches
Overall Height 55.7 Inches
Ground Clearance 4.5
Frontal Area, sq. ft. (sq. m) 25.9
Drag Coefficient 0.380
Curb Weight, lb. (kg) — Est. 4,439 (2013.5)
Weight Distribution, percent F/R57/43

If you didn't care what happened to me
And I didn't care for you
We would zig-zag our way
Occasionally glancing up through the rain
Wondering which of the buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing - Roger Waters

Cuda back on! I'll wait.

4439 lbs? **** thats a big girl

'Cuda? I know what will be my new car :). I've always loved the '70-'71 Plymouth 'Cudas.

If the Hellcat has more horsepower than the Viper, the Viper sales will not be affected. The Viper is an out and out sports car that has its own separate market.

Bingo Larry. I do agree.
I think it may have as much, if not more, power than the Viper.
The Viper is just,......well,..........:drool:

Just saw where it will be rated at some 707hp, yes, with a seven, and 650 torques or something!!! Jez, even if it is a big pig of a car, 700hp will make nearly anything fast.

Yeah, apparently they made it known today that it will be rated at 707 hp .....

Even weighing in at that 4439 lbs, it should still move pretty good

Saw that, holy ****e! That's around 600+ whp, stock, with a warranty!

Yeah,....pretty nasty indeed.
That RPM needle moves quick too when you hit the go pedal. I MEAN QUICK!!
It's got that "whine" too. Very impressive for a stock car. I want to see the 0-60 and the 1/4 times & MPH.
I believe the CEO of SVT is calling it, "the quickest musclecar period" and with "the most power period". (Obviously he's talking stock muscle cars.) I'm not sure if he means in Dodge's history or in all of muscle car history. If the latter,....those are pretty bold claims.

What makes it a bold statement? It clearly has the most hp of any factory muscle car right?

I read the article in my new Automobile mag. Looks like I will be ordering one and it will site next to my 2014 GT. That way I'll have the quite Big Girl that is really mean and nasty and the Really loud obnoxious skinny girl. What more could any one ask for LOL:metal::metal:

I didn't think the comment meant to be cynical or doubting? It IS a bold statement that is obviously being backed up by Dodge! :-)

Do it! I'd love one of these Hellcats. I'm definitely gonna look into picking up a 392 scat pack challenger.

This list looks like its from 1964-2009 so it doesn't include the last few year's HP giants.

http://www.autofacts.ca/north-americ...oduction-cars/

Sounds like a good night to revisit Vanishing Point... lol :p
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Always had a soft spot for that flick! :nice:

Do we know yet what kind of rubber this car is gonna have?

I have yet to see a Challenger with any kind of serious rubber on them. Usually they look like they are rolling on dimes to me.

Hmmmmm.....'Cuda. That could be a bit of a game changer. Personally, I always prefered the 'Cuda over the Challenger.

Let's hope they don't get too retro though......

my buddy is getting a green one
http://carsprice2015.com/wp-content/...Hellcat-66.jpg

I think I saw 305s in the press shots. I know they're Pirellis, probably same as what is on our GTs stock.

Btw I got my buddy to go staggered on his Charger R/T - came stock with 235/55/18s, similar to the stock 05-14 GT 18" tires - such a joke! He's on 245/45/20 and 275/40/20 now. It's crazy that 275/40/20 is fitting on cars these days - the fricken F-150 and Silverados come with that same exact size :doh:

You did read what I wrote?! There were 2 claims.
I bolded the type for you. :nice:
Obviously it does have the most horsepower, right? 2015 Z06 = 650, the 2013/2014 Shelby = 662, the 2013/2014 Viper 640.

So first of all the vette and viper are not muscle cars.

Second. I still don't see your point. Yes I can read thank you. And yes I read the whole thing the first time.

Now really, I don't care. What started as a simple question to see if I missed something turned into a massive ordeal over vernacular.

However, you said that if the SVT boss was referring to ALL muscle cars and not just dodge muscle cars, it was a bold claim.

I interpret a bold claim as statement that isn't proven, fact, or normal but someone is taking the risk to say it anyway pending proof that it is true.

We know that it has the most hp, period. And it will most likely be the fastest, period. What makes this bold to say?? It seems like he's stating the obvious. Coming from a Ford guy is indeed note worthy. But bold??? I disagree.

Sounds horrible....

That car sounds like ****

This thread pisses me off.....
Dodge... Lol... Bread box on wheels.
What an ugly car!!!

You won dude.
I give up. :D

The hellkat is one big girl lol.

The original quote from stage_3 said it came from the SVT CEO. That would be Ford.

But if it was a typo and he meant SRT, which hadn't occurred to me. It would make more sense, AND does kinda make the statement bold since it's coming from their own guy. Even though it's still obvious.

These don't look particularly wide to me

Of course she's a big car so my sense of scale is probably off a bit

My point is when a Shelby comes out with 500hp then 540hp and then 662hp the immediate comments and quotes on auto sites is well it can't even begin to put that to the pavement yet apparently a Hellcat can?

Must be the IRS I guess? Or maybe some kind of Italian magic?

Yes,...my bad. :fear: I meant SRT. The CEO of SRT was making those claims, not SVT. (My bad there bro. I apologize.)
I won't believe it's the fastest until I see video proof of 0-60 times and quarter mile traps. It would have to be faster than the 2015 Z06 and I don't see that happening. The 2015 Z06 hits 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. I don't know if the Hellcat is quicker than that.
If it is,..........BRAVO SRT team.

Exactly. That's all the magrags talked about.

Yet IRS has more wheel hop than SRA.

Gotta remember that the SRT team has engineers from Mercedes AMG team now. I completely agree with you though, I doubt it's gonna be faster than the Z06. I believe the SRT CEO stated that the Hellcat is the fastest muscle car though. The Z06 isn't a muscle car, it's a sports car.

For muscle cars, It definitely wipes the floor with the Camaro ZL1, and I'm sure it's going to beat the 662hp GT500. We'll see about that though, cause there's a big weight difference.

I believe the 6.2 is gonna be mated to a TR6060. The 8-speed auto will have a short 1st gear like the 6R80, it's 4.71. It's also gonna be a high revving engine with its Bore x Stroke at 4.09" x 3.58" (104mm x 91mm). It makes peak power at 6,000rpm.

Does the CEO of svt have rocks in his head making such statements.....
Super snake 1000 hp
Super snake 1200 hp

The Hellcat will be the quickest factory muscle car to date (I've heard 10.9 on the M6 car on my usual Brand-X hangout). The Super Snake might be quicker and faster but its not a factory effort being more or less a tuner car like Roush or Saleen or Steeda.

To worries. Still don't consider the vette a muscle car though ;)

Well we clarified that it was the SRT CEO not SVT. But anyway, the SS mustangs are not factory mass production.

Not factory cars. As said, those are from a tuner.

707 HP/650 TQ is the most a muscle car has ever come with from the factory.

That was a typo on my part....
ss mustang... Nice touch... Lol

That is an incredible amount of HP and torque, insane too! Has any one seen or heard what the MSRP is going to be? SRT's are list for around 50k. I could see a 20k premium, maybe 25k.

Yeah,...I was going to guesstimate about 70/75k for a HELLCAT.
But,...who knows what the dealer markups will be? Hopefully none.

It's funny, the Challenger's great styling tends to hide it's great size -- every time I walk up to one, I feel like I'm shrinking down to child sized :-)

It will be interesting how well the Challenger can put down and actually utilize its prodigious power. The primary constraint would simply be rear tire rubber on the tarmac -- basic physics of force and friction. Secondarily would be the role of the IRS to allow a broader performance envelope, over a wider range of road conditions and quality. The burley GT500 did pretty well with the primary aspect, a bit less so in the secondary, what with its high-unsprung-weight light axle.

She's fast . . .

10.8 on DRs
11.2 on production tires

http://jalopnik.com/the-707-hp-dodge...ond-1603567665

**** thats fast. Hope ford steps it up on the gt500. Dodge belongs in the rear view mirror. I still think it looks way to big, the exterior does look nice sometimes though. But i couldnt live with that hideous interior yuck

Personally, I find it nicer then the new mustang interior, the way everything is organized and angled towards the driver.

Not to mention Dodge's infotainment system is a lot easier to navigate than Ford's (both my current non-MFT one, and MFT).

Well we all have different opinions. The part that really bothers me is the space between the screen and the vent on the right. i personally love the new 2015 interior.

That's a matter of opinion and choice. I find our MFT system works great in our cars . . . though I've only messed with the Dodge system briefly.

Well to be fair, I haven't played with MFT, so it don't know how bad it really is. My Electronics Package works just fine, it's just some menus are easier to navigate to on the Dodge system. My buddy has a 2013 Charger R/T - they have a lot of menus easily accessible on the outer portion of the screen (like a border) versus having to press a button or go 2-3 menus deep to access some settings.

Yes indeed sir.
Now if only they got rid of some the weight, that would be even quicker. But, they did add the supercharger, the twin intercoolers, the bigger brakes, etc., etc.

I do agree. I like the interior as well. I'm not really a NAV kind of guy or any of that fancy stuff. Give me the performance over that stuff any day.
But,...I kind of like the way SRT has the interior set up as well as the controls.

Might be slower if it was lighter no? Weight probably helps with traction.

The interior of the challenger looks like it could belong to any car, unlike the mustang, you know that's a mustangs interior.

Dodge throwing it down in the muscle car war. That is just what we needed. :woot:
Next please.

Agreed...this is a good. I've heard rumours of a 'Cuda, although it'd feel awkward with the Plymouth marque out of the picture. And I've heard that Buick might be bringing back the GN, albiet a 4 door, which I assume might share the Chevrolet SS platform. Not sure about that, but whatever happens, it's all good.

It feels great to be excited about factory hot rods now and in the near future.

Tom

No way,........not if the suspension is done right.
Let's put it into perspective,.....it beat the GT500 by .06 seconds clocked at the same speed. The HC was an automatic versus a 6 speed manual GT500. Let's put the manual and manual against each other. Maybe it's a tie, but I'm thinking the GT500 wins. (Depending on drivers as well.)

:agree:
Keep it going. :D

I wonder what the top speed is. Should be north of 200, but how much higher.

I like it that SRT kept the Hellcat name. I mean , who would not want to drive a car with a Hellcat engine in it. The engine surely lives up to the name.

Lol
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/s...bhp-2014-07-15

Wow. That's impressive.

Burnout machine!!!! :nice:
60K for the Hellcat including the gas guzzler's tax. Kudos to the SRT team for making this car just as fast as the 2015 Corvette Z06 in the 0-60. Both do it in 3.5 seconds. Awesome.
(Now imagine if SRT could manage to take some weight off?!? :heh:)

I love the Scat Pack, and with starting price of 38,500 its a great price. SUBLIME! :D
If I was buying car today, thats what I would get, even was calculating how much it would cost, trading in and all that. Would be nice, but my rational part of the brain is telling me to back off, the financial hit/loss from trading in is pretty big.

What's the roundabout base price for one?

Hellcat starting price is 59,900 MSRP.
Tho with options plus typical dealer markup it will be little bet high for few months.

I'm actually more interested to see the Charger SRT Hellcat.

That includes the gas guzzler's tax, which is built into the price.
Two different prices of the gas guzzler's tax. One for the automatic and one for the manual. The manual's cost is more.

<has a top speed of 199 mph....>

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/...tcmp=obnetwork

Hot ****!!!
She's a nice machine. :D :nice:

I don't believe it only does 199mph. Sounds like marketing to protect the Viper.

I don't think they're protecting the Viper. Viper has a different following.

The SRT team set out to make a simply bad *** machine and they did just that with the certifications to back it. :nice:
The engine makes OVER 800 HP. It's 707 HP and 650 TQ "SAE certified" at the back of the crank. It takes 80 HP just to power the supercharger.

Holy moly!

This is one of those times where winning the lotto is on my mind ......
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...en_colbert.gif

Now that's what I like to see! :devil:

I'm not 100% positive, but more so 95% positive, that this HC will do about the same as the Z06 in the 0-60, which is 3.5 seconds.
(I know, I know. 2 different animals. I just wanted to put an exclamation point as to how fast this car is, considering the HUGE weight difference between the 2 cars. VERY impressive.)

I guess 3.5 with manual, 3.3-3.4 with 8-Spd auto...:devil:

I also remember reading that. Thing is though is the 800lb or so weight difference (as you mentioned) but not much more power on the HC vs the z06.

So the HC has "only" 57 more hp, same tq, and weights 25-30% more yet still runs the same 0-60 times....Makes me wonder if the HC is vastly underrated...

Yes, I did. Pretty impressive for being at 6,000 elevation. Launch didn't look good either. lol

Yeah,....I tend to think this car is way underrated as well.
This car will break away from you if you are not careful. lol :drool:

$ 59,995.00, base model, 6 speed, includes the gas guzzler tax but not the $ 990 destination charge.
The automatic option will be $ 1000 - 1200.
Expect ADM's of 5K to 10 K !!
Dealer near me has taken ( 4 ) orders, they expect to get 1, maybe 2........which will go to the " high bidder ".
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According to Ford, the 2014 GT500 will do 0 - 60 in 3.5 sec.
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...............................................Why can't I find any 1/4 mile info for the 6 speed HellCat ???
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I think there may be some on youtube? I think they have some of it doing the PIR laps in a M6. If not,..then they have put it up yet.
The A8 is faster than the M6 in the HC and faster than any human can shift in any other car. (According to Dodge and SRT.)