FPV Boss "335" GT - Dyno'ed
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FPV Boss "335" GT - Dyno'ed
Long story short -
FPV quotes 335kW (450HP) for the blown Coyote (codename Miami).
They were referring to the power at the WHEELS! Read on!
Three weeks ago a local Ford-dedicated magazine, "Street Fords", had a
press car for a few days. Their first stop was the strip with a time of 12.92
@ 114MPH (2.1 60'). With the 120kg driver it tipped the scales at 4277lbs.
Traction was an issue.
They then took it to a performance workshop, threw it on the rollers to
record 353rwkw (473.9rwhp)!!!!
They were dumb-struck, off course, so they took it to another dyno the next
day. That reeled off 328rwkw (440rwhp). *Bare in mind, driveline loss is
more than what you're used to in the U.S.; it's (calculated to be) closer to
25% here in Oz.*
The internet arguments started - many were skeptical that this is pulling
over 550 flywheel hp with that Trap Speed.
UNTIL.... This morning, when another reputable workshop got the exact
result. No, not a press car, but a customer's. Bang on 325rwkw. Second run,
tightened down even harder, the GT's ecu pours more boost, fuel and timing
as more heat is detected. It pulled 333rwkw.
One of the skeptics was there.
He did the extra tightening.
He was gobsmacked.
This tuner explained why the MPH was down. The gear changes come with
heavy torque truncations, thus inhibiting the power during shifts down the
strip - obviously won't come into play on a dyno.
A very slight play with the SCT flasher resulted 355rwkw (over 600HP!!!). Not bad for a non-intercooled 1.9 tvs.
Hats off to Ford USA for designing a brilliant base for FPV to work off. Thank you!
/The intercooled version is on it's way
FPV quotes 335kW (450HP) for the blown Coyote (codename Miami).
They were referring to the power at the WHEELS! Read on!
Three weeks ago a local Ford-dedicated magazine, "Street Fords", had a
press car for a few days. Their first stop was the strip with a time of 12.92
@ 114MPH (2.1 60'). With the 120kg driver it tipped the scales at 4277lbs.
Traction was an issue.
They then took it to a performance workshop, threw it on the rollers to
record 353rwkw (473.9rwhp)!!!!
They were dumb-struck, off course, so they took it to another dyno the next
day. That reeled off 328rwkw (440rwhp). *Bare in mind, driveline loss is
more than what you're used to in the U.S.; it's (calculated to be) closer to
25% here in Oz.*
The internet arguments started - many were skeptical that this is pulling
over 550 flywheel hp with that Trap Speed.
UNTIL.... This morning, when another reputable workshop got the exact
result. No, not a press car, but a customer's. Bang on 325rwkw. Second run,
tightened down even harder, the GT's ecu pours more boost, fuel and timing
as more heat is detected. It pulled 333rwkw.
One of the skeptics was there.
He did the extra tightening.
He was gobsmacked.
This tuner explained why the MPH was down. The gear changes come with
heavy torque truncations, thus inhibiting the power during shifts down the
strip - obviously won't come into play on a dyno.
A very slight play with the SCT flasher resulted 355rwkw (over 600HP!!!). Not bad for a non-intercooled 1.9 tvs.
Hats off to Ford USA for designing a brilliant base for FPV to work off. Thank you!
/The intercooled version is on it's way
Wow!
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Yeah, but they've been talking about that for a long time. I've got a feeling that if we do get the Falcon on our shores it won't be until the next generation debuts, it will be a smaller car, and it will be marketed here as something of a cross between a modern day successor to the muscle cars of the 60's and a BMW 3-Series sedan rival...and it will wear a blue oval on the front.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
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The below is a GS with the detuned 315kW model. The numbers on the dyno, in this case, aren't the same as what's on the badge. But nevertheless, it's amazing how much he's gained with the tune. Same (EXTREME TUNING) dyno, by the way.
Originally Posted by Xtreme F6
Well its time to get this started.
Picked up the XFT GS test ute.
Very nice car to drive. I drove straight back to the shop after picking it up 5.00 and got to give it a quick flick on the dyno.
http://twitpic.com/37cks5
So lets start.
http://twitpic.com/37cl0l
First pull.
http://twitpic.com/37cl9t
Now as you can see, Boost is terrible, something we didnt see on the GT. Possible differance in exhaust on the ute to the GT? Something we will be able to look into.
http://twitpic.com/37clfm
So, Lets just through the changes bwteen the 2 maps on the GT/GS tunes into the GS base map and see what happens.
http://twitpic.com/37clr8
Yes, Definatley not the power we saw the GT make. Again look at the horrible boost control of the thing.
http://twitpic.com/37coi1
Ok enough of that, Lets just run the boost with me tuning it close to what we saw the GT run and see what power it makes.
http://twitpic.com/37cou4
Now lets increase the rev limit a touch
http://twitpic.com/37cm45
So all in all exciting times for the new generation of Fords, One thing is for certain, they are all not the same in the power stakes. I cant touch this thing again now until the weekend as I am too busy but dont worry I will be playing again soon and lets just see what we can get out of a stock Ford with just a tune before we head into the mods. As you can see from the graphs it has only had a couple of pulls on it so fine tuning will yield some nice figures.
Also, Removed that pesky torque reductions on gear shifts etc. MUCH MUCH nicer now. Turn off the traction and it will smoke 'em...... .. Not that i would do that
Picked up the XFT GS test ute.
Very nice car to drive. I drove straight back to the shop after picking it up 5.00 and got to give it a quick flick on the dyno.
http://twitpic.com/37cks5
So lets start.
http://twitpic.com/37cl0l
First pull.
http://twitpic.com/37cl9t
Now as you can see, Boost is terrible, something we didnt see on the GT. Possible differance in exhaust on the ute to the GT? Something we will be able to look into.
http://twitpic.com/37clfm
So, Lets just through the changes bwteen the 2 maps on the GT/GS tunes into the GS base map and see what happens.
http://twitpic.com/37clr8
Yes, Definatley not the power we saw the GT make. Again look at the horrible boost control of the thing.
http://twitpic.com/37coi1
Ok enough of that, Lets just run the boost with me tuning it close to what we saw the GT run and see what power it makes.
http://twitpic.com/37cou4
Now lets increase the rev limit a touch
http://twitpic.com/37cm45
So all in all exciting times for the new generation of Fords, One thing is for certain, they are all not the same in the power stakes. I cant touch this thing again now until the weekend as I am too busy but dont worry I will be playing again soon and lets just see what we can get out of a stock Ford with just a tune before we head into the mods. As you can see from the graphs it has only had a couple of pulls on it so fine tuning will yield some nice figures.
Also, Removed that pesky torque reductions on gear shifts etc. MUCH MUCH nicer now. Turn off the traction and it will smoke 'em...... .. Not that i would do that
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Lawdy! Just why isn't that car, or at least that motor (in the GT500) not here right now?
While American manufacturers bend over backwards to find ways why they can't do something cool, those nutty Aussies just go ahead and do it, with awesome results.
While American manufacturers bend over backwards to find ways why they can't do something cool, those nutty Aussies just go ahead and do it, with awesome results.
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I don't think I would want that in the GT500 as is, at least no in place of the 5.4L. The lack of an intercooler is going to prove troublesome for those intent on turning the wick up. And, power isn't quite as good as the GT500, likely due in no small part to the lack of that intercooler.
That said, I think the 5.0L is going to prove a more than worthy heir to the 5.4L no matter what form of forced induction Ford chooses.
That said, I think the 5.0L is going to prove a more than worthy heir to the 5.4L no matter what form of forced induction Ford chooses.
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I don't think I would want that in the GT500 as is, at least no in place of the 5.4L. The lack of an intercooler is going to prove troublesome for those intent on turning the wick up. And, power isn't quite as good as the GT500, likely due in no small part to the lack of that intercooler.
That said, I think the 5.0L is going to prove a more than worthy heir to the 5.4L no matter what form of forced induction Ford chooses.
That said, I think the 5.0L is going to prove a more than worthy heir to the 5.4L no matter what form of forced induction Ford chooses.
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^^ One of these in a coupe version is pie in the sky stuff.
Anyhow, here a couple of more short vids... this car stock..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53au1HpYBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNNaHs5ds98
Do you like this colour?
Anyhow, here a couple of more short vids... this car stock..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53au1HpYBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNNaHs5ds98
Do you like this colour?
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