No V6 premium?
9/3/14, 05:15 PM
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It was speculated a while back that Ford will probably phase out the V6 in a couple of years, and while I don't know the validity of that suggestion, the absence of a premium level for the 6 seems to make sense.
It looks like the Mustang engines will only be the EcoBoost, Coyote, and of course SVT variants.
It looks like the Mustang engines will only be the EcoBoost, Coyote, and of course SVT variants.
9/3/14, 05:28 PM
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It was speculated a while back that Ford will probably phase out the V6 in a couple of years, and while I don't know the validity of that suggestion, the absence of a premium level for the 6 seems to make sense.
It looks like the Mustang engines will only be the EcoBoost, Coyote, and of course SVT variants.
It looks like the Mustang engines will only be the EcoBoost, Coyote, and of course SVT variants.
9/3/14, 07:06 PM
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Hmmm. As long as they're offering the V6 at all, it seems shortsighted to me to not have the premium package. A lot of folks just aren't gonna buy that ecoboost engine (me for one, if I was buying). But I'd certainly want the leather interior... and it's a helluva step to the GT premium.
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9/4/14, 06:22 AM
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Whether or not anyone actually sees better MPG in the real world (they probably won't), the ecoboost is rated higher than the V6 by the EPA. And remember the CAFE number is based on different numbers than the window sticker. So its possible the difference is even greater with that other calculation.
So every ecoboost that is sold instead of a V6 helps their corporate average. And while there are some who would refuse the ecoboost over the V6, the majority of consumers will take it for a test drive and be more than satisfied with it.
So every ecoboost that is sold instead of a V6 helps their corporate average. And while there are some who would refuse the ecoboost over the V6, the majority of consumers will take it for a test drive and be more than satisfied with it.
9/4/14, 07:36 AM
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Whether or not anyone actually sees better MPG in the real world (they probably won't), the ecoboost is rated higher than the V6 by the EPA. And remember the CAFE number is based on different numbers than the window sticker. So its possible the difference is even greater with that other calculation.
So every ecoboost that is sold instead of a V6 helps their corporate average. And while there are some who would refuse the ecoboost over the V6, the majority of consumers will take it for a test drive and be more than satisfied with it.
So every ecoboost that is sold instead of a V6 helps their corporate average. And while there are some who would refuse the ecoboost over the V6, the majority of consumers will take it for a test drive and be more than satisfied with it.
Perhaps an Ecoboost V6 option in the mustang? (please don't kill me)
9/4/14, 09:03 AM
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I'm no expert by far but I would tend to agree with you, more power and better fuel economy makes it an obvious choice over the V6 (notice the V6 fuel economy is worse than last year. Ford had been pushing it's Ecoboost engine and it makes sense in a lot of applications. The V6 Ecoboost in the F150 is a great option for those who use a truck for DIY home projects but it's a bad option for someone that toes a boat. Perhaps an Ecoboost V6 option in the mustang? (please don't kill me)
9/4/14, 09:37 AM
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Interesting information, thanks for the schooling. I was simply looking at fuel economy, I would think towing with a turbo would kill millage.
9/4/14, 10:02 AM
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It brings the mileage back in line with what you would expect from and engine with 420lbft. That's the thing people miss with the ecoboost the idea is to return better mileage when you don't need the boost. DI helps some in all situations but when on the boost the mileage befits the power... However when idling it's just a 3.5 v6 where a 6.2 v8 is a 6.2 at idle
9/4/14, 11:53 AM
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It brings the mileage back in line with what you would expect from and engine with 420lbft. That's the thing people miss with the ecoboost the idea is to return better mileage when you don't need the boost. DI helps some in all situations but when on the boost the mileage befits the power... However when idling it's just a 3.5 v6 where a 6.2 v8 is a 6.2 at idle
9/4/14, 03:13 PM
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To be fair, my statement about not buying the ecoboost is based on experience with the 1.6L in the Escape. No complaints about the power delivery, but fuel economy was way off the mark and there were several engine related recalls. It may well have been only the 1.6 that had issues... but those issues will keep me out of anything 'ecoboost' until there isn't any other option. And I suspect I'm not the only one.
It is nice to read in the other thread that they've gone soft-touch on the premium door panels.
It is nice to read in the other thread that they've gone soft-touch on the premium door panels.
9/4/14, 03:46 PM
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To be fair, my statement about not buying the ecoboost is based on experience with the 1.6L in the Escape. No complaints about the power delivery, but fuel economy was way off the mark and there were several engine related recalls. It may well have been only the 1.6 that had issues... but those issues will keep me out of anything 'ecoboost' until there isn't any other option. And I suspect I'm not the only one. It is nice to read in the other thread that they've gone soft-touch on the premium door panels.
9/5/14, 07:06 AM
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Having a 2013 Ecoboost Fusion I can say the initial MPG was much lower than expected. I now have about 21k miles on the car and am seeing huge improvements in the MPG. I routinely get 27mpg all around where I was getting 22-24 and almost 39 on long trips where I would get about 32-33.. So i think that these engines need to really break in.
9/5/14, 09:18 PM
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I have 2 ecoboost vehicles right now. A 2014 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0L and a Ford Fiesta ST, both vehicles powerplants are great. In the escape the tranny is the weak part, but either way neither vehicle is even getting close to the rated MPG.
If you drive them like the throttle is made of an egg shell, well then maybe. In regular driving though I doubt the ecoboost motor will get better economy than the V6.
I get it Ford wants us to buy the Ecoboost motor, but if I wanted a car for a long term vehicle and didn't want the headache of dealing with a turbocharged car I would want the V6.
For me I want the Coyote or even better the Voodoo motor. I just don't think Ford should deny someone who wants the V6 the better creature comforts.
Dave
If you drive them like the throttle is made of an egg shell, well then maybe. In regular driving though I doubt the ecoboost motor will get better economy than the V6.
I get it Ford wants us to buy the Ecoboost motor, but if I wanted a car for a long term vehicle and didn't want the headache of dealing with a turbocharged car I would want the V6.
For me I want the Coyote or even better the Voodoo motor. I just don't think Ford should deny someone who wants the V6 the better creature comforts.
Dave