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I find the 2015 to be a strange mix of modern design and heritage elements that don't blend perfectly together. It's almost as if the designers started with a strikingly beautiful modern sports car and were ordered to integrate a bunch of heritage design cues that don't quite blend well together in the overall package. I think if the 2015 weren't forced to have all the heritage elements, it would be a stunning, modern sports car that would generate a new, modern heritage for the Mustang with inspiration from the 60's in it's shape and layout but not the specific design elements forced on this car.
I think I'm out at this point but that's not to say that I won't buy an S550 at some time in the future. When I first heard that the new platform was going to be a completely modern Mustang, I was hoping that it was going to be a complete departure from past design themes. I don't think that's happened yet but the potential is certainly there.
Does this make any sense?
I think I'm out at this point but that's not to say that I won't buy an S550 at some time in the future. When I first heard that the new platform was going to be a completely modern Mustang, I was hoping that it was going to be a complete departure from past design themes. I don't think that's happened yet but the potential is certainly there.
Does this make any sense?
I would probably rate it 8/10 exterior and 7/10 interior.
I suspect the original intention was probably closer to the EVOS show car but with a nose stretched out enough to house the 5.0. I would also guess, presuming that the oldsters are hand held into the present with this gentler 2015 iteration, that the 2017/18 refresh will then be more fully modern interpretation of a Mustang.
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As a former SN95 owner, I agree. To me, the 2015 isn't my favorite design, and there are things about it I'm still not sold on, but it still looks like a Mustang to me. There are some nuances that are similar to the rest of the Ford lineup, but are you telling me you couldn't see Falcon in the 65-68 Mustang? Or the Taurus/Escort/Probe in the Fox Mustangs? Or the Taurus, T-Bird, Escort in the 94-98 Mustangs?
I don't like the headlights in pics, because I don't like the angle. I don't *not* like them because they look similar to Fusion headlights. The Fusion is a good looking car, and it's selling like hot cakes. If the Mustang came out first, you all wouldn't be sanding the same tune.
If the 2015 was available with a Glass Roof, I would've bought one. Fact.
I don't like the headlights in pics, because I don't like the angle. I don't *not* like them because they look similar to Fusion headlights. The Fusion is a good looking car, and it's selling like hot cakes. If the Mustang came out first, you all wouldn't be sanding the same tune.
If the 2015 was available with a Glass Roof, I would've bought one. Fact.
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I would tend to agree with this assessment: that Ford initially wanted a more fully modern interpretation of the Mustang but then got a bit of cold feet about how the oldsters would react and the designers were subsequently ordered by marketing/corporate to jam on some more obvious retro cues for those who need obvious retro cues and make it look more "bad azz." While the end result certainly is good, very good, it does have some slightly awkward elements and angles nonetheless. I would probably rate it 8/10 exterior and 7/10 interior. I suspect the original intention was probably closer to the EVOS show car but with a nose stretched out enough to house the 5.0. I would also guess, presuming that the oldsters are hand held into the present with this gentler 2015 iteration, that the 2017/18 refresh will then be more fully modern interpretation of a Mustang.
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That's what I've been betting on anyways, and coincidentally is when I planned on trading my 2014 now the GT350 has to be available with it, and it's all but a done deal!
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I seem to remember people being just as upset when the 2005 came out. People will either love it or hate it. I like the retro style better but I am sure the 15 will grow on me over time.
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Yes and also to attract younger buyers. Sorry old guys is not all about you. Ford can't be stock in the past forever and just keep coming out with retro after retro design one after the other. People will grow tire of it. The brand have to evolve with the times and attract new buyers for it to survive. I understand Porsche has been successful doing this but I think the reason for that is because the 911 has such unique shape and been one of the very few rear engine cars you can buy (Ferrari and Lambo are mid-engine). I just get the logic that the car has to look like the original to be a Mustang. Wasn't the Fox one of the must successful ( and the ugliest I my opinion ) and didn't look anything like the original? If it is nostalgia that you want go buy a replica or original classic and let the Mustang brand evolve.
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Will see how it goes. I would never ever buy a first year auto.. No computer software does not make it fantastic first year. Look at all the recalls mostly first year cars. They get the bugs out and Like MS use the public and the beta testers. LOL
Look at the new Camaro designs.. They are making it look more retro than before.. There is something to be said about a name.. it should look that way.
Look Ford has allot of history destroying the look of a car. Remember the Old Taurus? LOL Well the best selling car for a long time. They redesigned it to make it more modern. Went from first to last.. Hope the new FUSTANG does not end up that way. Just sayin
Look at the new Camaro designs.. They are making it look more retro than before.. There is something to be said about a name.. it should look that way.
Look Ford has allot of history destroying the look of a car. Remember the Old Taurus? LOL Well the best selling car for a long time. They redesigned it to make it more modern. Went from first to last.. Hope the new FUSTANG does not end up that way. Just sayin
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Yes and also to attract younger buyers. Sorry old guys is not all about you. Ford can't be stock in the past forever and just keep coming out with retro after retro design one after the other. People will grow tire of it. The brand have to evolve with the times and attract new buyers for it to survive. I understand Porsche has been successful doing this but I think the reason for that is because the 911 has such unique shape and been one of the very few rear engine cars you can buy (Ferrari and Lambo are mid-engine). I just get the logic that the car has to look like the original to be a Mustang. Wasn't the Fox one of the must successful ( and the ugliest I my opinion ) and didn't look anything like the original? If it is nostalgia that you want go buy a replica or original classic and let the Mustang brand evolve.
I'm with those that say why does everyone think the Fox was so "Mustang" but the S550 isn't? I've owned (5) Foxbody stangs and I would not classify any of them as classic mustang styling. I still loved it though.
I may go against the grain here...... I bought my 2005 mustang because I absolutely loved the interior and the side profile. I HATED the rear and found the front to be somewhat boring. Still loved the car overall though.
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As has has been discussed with you, Ford loyalists will hold their nose about some aspects and still buy. So your metrics don't prove anything in regards to Ford designers having a front end defect from Ford to Lincoln. You can bow at the altar of Ford all day long, but the outpouring of Fustang is across numerous forums as well as TMS.
Yes I love Ford and own them. That doesn't mean I have to duct tape my mouth at the areas where they COULD do better.
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