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MilesTeg Jul 30, 2012 07:51 PM

"Rough" Idle
 
So I've noticed that my '13 has a pretty rough idle. I'm told by the dealership this is "normal". It's the kind of thing I'd expect out of a 60's V8, but I'd expect a smooth idle with variable/multi-cam engines.

It's smooth all other times, just at idle it fluctuates between smooth and kinda "rumbly" (enough to cause significant vibration in the shifter knob). Not enough that you feel like the engine is going to die, but not what I'd expect out of a modern engine.

Is this "normal"?

2012WhiteGT Jul 30, 2012 08:34 PM

Unfortunately, yes--it's normal. The first time mine did it I thought there was something wrong with it, but there are tons of threads showing other 5.0s doing it too. You can actually watch the tach jump around a little. You'd think Ford could do better than that. My big diesel truck with 100k miles idles 100 times smoother than my brand new GT.

GreenCars Jul 30, 2012 10:03 PM

My 2013 3.7L does it to.. Not a lot but I do feel it in the shifter when cold. I don't notice when the car is warm..

texastboneking Jul 30, 2012 10:17 PM

Want smooth? Buy a caddy... want fun buy a stang

SlowRiderr Jul 30, 2012 10:32 PM

Maybe they engineered it like that? So that it feels like a muscle car and not a chevy sonic

Stevedotmil Jul 31, 2012 06:52 AM

It's kind of like my dad's old 74 Firebird. That's what I thought of first when I noticed it.

GRN 5OH Jul 31, 2012 09:01 AM

Call me crazy but I kind of like the somewhat lumpy idle. It really does make me feel like I am driving an American muscle car. :grin:

MilesTeg Jul 31, 2012 10:48 AM

Meh, it's not a huge issue, but it is unexpected in a modern engine, muscle car or not. Wanted to make sure it wasn't abnormal.

airoscar Jul 31, 2012 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by GreenCars (Post 6408216)
My 2013 3.7L does it to.. Not a lot but I do feel it in the shifter when cold. I don't notice when the car is warm..

mine actually idles really smoothily, just higher idle and throatier sound when its cold.

2012WhiteGT Jul 31, 2012 03:13 PM

I don't think it was on purpose. It's not a rhythmic lumpy idle like an old school v8 with a hot cam. It's a random, annoying stumble. It's not a deal breaker, but let's be honest with ourselves... A rough idle pretty rare in modern engines no matter how weak or powerful, and if Ford really wanted to, I'm sure they could fix it.

FordService Aug 1, 2012 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by MilesTeg (Post 6408088)
So I've noticed that my '13 has a pretty rough idle. I'm told by the dealership this is "normal". It's the kind of thing I'd expect out of a 60's V8, but I'd expect a smooth idle with variable/multi-cam engines.
It's smooth all other times, just at idle it fluctuates between smooth and kinda "rumbly" (enough to cause significant vibration in the shifter knob). Not enough that you feel like the engine is going to die, but not what I'd expect out of a modern engine.


Originally Posted by 2012WhiteGT (Post 6408125)
Unfortunately, yes--it's normal. The first time mine did it I thought there was something wrong with it, but there are tons of threads showing other 5.0s doing it too. You can actually watch the tach jump around a little.


Originally Posted by GreenCars (Post 6408216)
My 2013 3.7L does it to.. Not a lot but I do feel it in the shifter when cold. I don't notice when the car is warm..


Originally Posted by Stevedotmil (Post 6408369)
It's kind of like my dad's old 74 Firebird. That's what I thought of first when I noticed it.


Originally Posted by airoscar (Post 6408567)
mine actually idles really smoothily, just higher idle and throatier sound when its cold.

Hello guys,

My name is Deysha with Ford Service. I recommend you have your dealer take a look at it and make sure there is nothing else going on. Make an appointment with them and PM me with VIN, dealer, mileage, and contact info so I can escalate it to the Customer Service Manager of your area if needed.

Deysha

AMWill Aug 1, 2012 03:31 PM

It's hard to get a sense of how rough the idle is your describing through text. Getting it checked out at a dealership isn't a bad idea either. I would take full advantage to having a Ford customer service rep on the forum!

Thanks for looking our for these guys & gals Deysha!

Shane

FordService Aug 2, 2012 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by AMShaneLesky (Post 6409370)
It's hard to get a sense of how rough the idle is your describing through text. Getting it checked out at a dealership isn't a bad idea either. I would take full advantage to having a Ford customer service rep on the forum!

Thanks for looking our for these guys & gals Deysha!

Shane

Awwwwe! Thank you, Shane! :p

Deysha

Aleksandar Dragosavljevic Feb 20, 2013 10:56 AM

I am having the same symptom... I hear a click too when it drops RPM... I never had this in my 01 GT 5SPD or 97 Auto... Both were tuned.

This brand new GT 5.0 6spd with AIR RAID Intake from ford installed has a weird idle where RPM is jumping... just a slight... It is a cold rainy day out here IN PHOENIX.

Another thing is, when i was pressing the gas pedal... in neutral i try to get 1000-2000-3000 rpm constant but regretfully it either goes down or jumps up a little.... I noticed it when i was driving that it was doing this...

Moustang Feb 20, 2013 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by GreenCars (Post 6408216)
My 2013 3.7L does it to.. Not a lot but I do feel it in the shifter when cold. I don't notice when the car is warm..

Mine did the same when it was new. It stopped doing it as soon as I did my first oil change and replaced the factory blended oil with Pennzoil Ultra. Now it idles so smooth I can barely tell it's running.

Gas mileage improved as soon as I did the oil change as well.

Xar Feb 20, 2013 02:33 PM

my idle is only rough for the first minute of a cold start, then there are now issues at all.

COYOTE DAVE Feb 23, 2013 07:52 PM

I have an 2011 gt. I had it in for this issue ford told me its normal becouse of the twin cam setup. Said they are working on fixing it but at this time there is no fix.

SanchoRubyroid Jan 22, 2014 07:33 PM

here is how mine 2013 GT idling. Dealer told me it is normal O_o. Hate it.


williomare Apr 7, 2016 11:05 AM

haha this is the same issue i believe i am having. good to know im not the only one who thinks this is out of the ordinary,

williomare Apr 7, 2016 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Aleksandar Dragosavljevic (Post 6558322)
I am having the same symptom... I hear a click too when it drops RPM... I never had this in my 01 GT 5SPD or 97 Auto... Both were tuned.

This brand new GT 5.0 6spd with AIR RAID Intake from ford installed has a weird idle where RPM is jumping... just a slight... It is a cold rainy day out here IN PHOENIX.

Another thing is, when i was pressing the gas pedal... in neutral i try to get 1000-2000-3000 rpm constant but regretfully it either goes down or jumps up a little.... I noticed it when i was driving that it was doing this...

Ok mine is doing exactly this, Is this normal? im coming from a terminator swapped bullitt so i just wouldn't have expected it out of such a new car


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