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TTsix Dec 18, 2021 05:19 AM

Paint bubbleing on hood
 
I know that some have this problem and just wanted to know what are somethings you guys have done. I currently have a 2013 mustang and i noticed that on where my head light meets the hood, it started bubbleing. Can anyone help me with this. I know as soon as it start it will spread. I don't want to get a new hood because i like the look i have. Can anyone help me with this?

Siber Express Dec 18, 2021 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by TTsix (Post 7065757)
I know that some have this problem and just wanted to know what are somethings you guys have done. I currently have a 2013 mustang and i noticed that on where my head light meets the hood, it started bubbleing. Can anyone help me with this. I know as soon as it start it will spread. I don't want to get a new hood because i like the look i have. Can anyone help me with this?

You can replace it or have it fixed and then have it fixed in another couple years. The corrosion starts inside the seam and cannot be completely removed so it is a constant repair process once it starts.
My solution was a Cervinis hood.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...86f7d0664e.jpg



m05fastbackGT Dec 18, 2021 10:10 AM

There were contamination flaws in the materials used during the manufacturing process which were responsible for causing the corrosion issues starting at the hood seams.. As stated, once the corrosion process begins, it's only just a matter of time before it returns, regardless of how many times repair work is attempted.. In the end, your just much better off upgrading to a fiber glass hood IMHO.

Bert Dec 20, 2021 05:34 AM

You can get the original hood repainted, but it won't last very long. I think if they do a good job of cleaning and priming you might get a few years out of it, but that's just a wild guess. I have been thinking about doing that on mine, knowing that it will come back eventually.

I believe there is a company that sells carbon fiber hoods that match the original hood design, for the 2010-2012 hood and not sure about 2013-2014 hood. The carbon fiber hood I am thinking of, sells for about $1,000, unpainted. But it is black carbon fiber finish with clear coat, so it might be "good enough" without painting, if you want a black carbon fiber hood. I'm guessing to have it painted would be around another $1,000

houtex Dec 20, 2021 04:12 PM

Even McLarens can't have nice aluminum paint jobs. :|
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...7/#post7062956

I just gave up myself and got a Cobra R from Cervini. It's the only whey.

m05fastbackGT Dec 21, 2021 08:18 AM

:agree: " What he said"

kylerohde Dec 26, 2021 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Siber Express
You can replace it or have it fixed and then have it fixed in another couple years. The corrosion starts inside the seam and cannot be completely removed so it is a constant repair process once it starts.
My solution was a Cervinis hood.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...86f7d0664e.jpg


I also used the same solution - Cervini's hood. Great value for the dollar, color match was perfect and I've had mine on for over 50,000 miles and five years and it still looks great.

Maybe worth asking your dealer about the official TSB that went out a couple years ago about the hoods to see if they'll help you at all,

Siber Express Dec 26, 2021 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by kylerohde (Post 7065853)
I also used the same solution - Cervini's hood. Great value for the dollar, color match was perfect and I've had mine on for over 50,000 miles and five years and it still looks great.

Maybe worth asking your dealer about the official TSB that went out a couple years ago about the hoods to see if they'll help you at all,

I actually like The Mach One hood that you have on Lucy Kyle but they do not make it for the 13-14.

m05fastbackGT Dec 27, 2021 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by kylerohde (Post 7065853)
I also used the same solution - Cervini's hood. Great value for the dollar, color match was perfect and I've had mine on for over 50,000 miles and five years and it still looks great.

Maybe worth asking your dealer about the official TSB that went out a couple years ago about the hoods to see if they'll help you at all,

it's highly doubtful the dealer will provide any assistance towards replacing/repairing the hoods once the vehicle is no longer covered under Ford's corrosion protection plan.. Ford will only cover repairs/replacement at no cost while under factory, extended or corrosion protection plans.. Official TSB's do not apply.

houtex Dec 28, 2021 11:28 AM

Just a lil' nit pick... The hood was (and even today, is) never covered under the corrosion plan, as it wasn't ever corroded. The corrosion plan was for rusting through of panels, which the aluminum hood will never do in anyone's reading, nor several generations past them, lifetimes. Aluminum is pretty nifty that way. It forms its own anti-corrosion skin (aka aluminum oxide) that as long as it's otherwise untouched won't ever go through. Oh, sure, you could abrade it and then it forms new 'skin', but it would take decades if not longer to rub through one of these panels without serious work being applied... which would then make it not 'normal' and then uncovered by warranty anyway.

Unlike steel of course, which will rust on through pretty quick as it oxides and shakes apart in the flakes it does due to how the steel's lattice structure works. That goes through pretty quick. And that's the key: The perforation. Which is why the hoods or any aluminum panel will never be replaced under the 5 year/unlimited mileage warranty on corrosion. It can't happen.
https://help.ford.com/warranty/corrosion-warranty/

No, the coverage was the standard 3/36 or 5/60 or whatever the bumper to bumper warranty was on the *paint*. That's it. The hood itself was considered 'undamaged' and just needed a repaint as the paint had fallen off due to aluminum's awful adhesion properties for such things as primer. That it had grown itself a couple millimeters of skin is an interesting coincidence, merely an oddity, might be helpful even...

Now, one could argue 'shoddy workmanship' or such, and there's a thought process regarding the *painting* at the factory that might be involved, or possibly the idea of 'incorrectly designed parts re: drainage' from the dip they put the cars in before paint, but that has never, ever been proven despite quite a bit of fuss regarding the entire problem, and is likely not going to for the foreseeable future.

Aka, all us'n's with the aluminum hoods are on our own once the B2B warranty runs out, just like the batteries/alternators of the '05-'09's. Good luck everyone!

For what that's worth. :p Y'all berate as needed. :nice:

Bert Dec 29, 2021 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by houtex (Post 7065859)
Just a lil' nit pick... The hood was (and even today, is) never covered under the corrosion plan, as it wasn't ever corroded. The corrosion plan was for rusting through of panels, which the aluminum hood will never do in anyone's reading, nor several generations past them, lifetimes. . . . . Which is why the hoods or any aluminum panel will never be replaced under the 5 year/unlimited mileage warranty on corrosion. It can't happen.

OK well another nit then -- that nasty stuff on the aluminum most definitely is "corrosion" by any technical definition. Actually I believe it is called "galvanic corrosion." So the issue is that Ford does not really provide a "corrosion" warranty, they only warrant the body panels for "perforation" and that's why the warranty is generally useless for this.

m05fastbackGT Dec 30, 2021 08:31 AM

:agree: Exactly well put.. Just as you said, if Ford's corrosion warranty applies only to body panels that have "perforation" then what good is Ford's corrosion warranty actually good for, to begin with?

Just doesn't make any sense IMHO:dunno:

Siber Express Dec 30, 2021 01:40 PM

Ford did change that for the 2015 and up F-150 and the 2016 and on cars but you are SOL even now since you are out past the 5 years to start with.

The Ford Corrosion Warranty states:
  • If the body sheet metal has corrosion damage without perforation (holes), and the damage is not the result of abnormal usage and/or extreme environmental conditions, then the corrosion damage repairs are covered under the New Vehicle Warranty period: 3 years or 36,000 miles for cars & light trucks.
  • Rust damage resulting in perforation in body sheet metal panels is covered for 5 years/unlimited miles for cars & light trucks.
  • Aluminum Panels on 2015 F150s, 2016 cars & light trucks, and beyond vehicles, corrosion damage is covered for 5 years/unlimited miles with no requirement for perforation.


houtex Dec 31, 2021 04:17 PM


  • Aluminum Panels on 2015 F150s, 2016 cars & light trucks, and beyond vehicles, corrosion damage is covered for 5 years/unlimited miles with no requirement for perforation.

Well... there's an admission I didn't think I'd see. They know there's a problem, but this is their solution and (siphon greatly with a grand amount of pressure) it if you don't like it. Got it. :p

m05fastbackGT Jan 1, 2022 08:32 PM

So they finally acknowledge there's a known issue with corrosion damage, but yet their solution only applies to vehicles built after the 2016 model year for cars covered under the 3yr/36k factory warranty and 5yrs/unlimited mileage for rust damage resulting in perforation.. Well it appears for those who intend on keeping their 2016+ vehicles beyond the 3yr/36k factory and 5yr corrosion warranty are pretty much screwed once their past the 5yr warranty coverage, to begin with anyhow.. Perhaps some folks can afford to trade-in their vehicles every 3-5 years, but for those who are retired that don't have disposable incomes aren't quite as fortunate in having the luxury to afford trading in their vehicles every 3-5 years.. Myself included!

Siber Express Jan 1, 2022 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT (Post 7065897)
So they finally acknowledge there's a known issue with corrosion damage, but yet their solution only applies to vehicles built after the 2016 model year for cars covered under the 3yr/36k factory warranty and 5yrs/unlimited mileage for rust damage resulting in perforation.. Well it appears for those who intend on keeping their 2016+ vehicles beyond the 3yr/36k factory and 5yr corrosion warranty are pretty much screwed once their past the 5yr warranty coverage, to begin with anyhow.. Perhaps some folks can afford to trade-in their vehicles every 3-5 years, but for those who are retired that don't have disposable incomes aren't quite as fortunate in having the luxury to afford trading in their vehicles every 3-5 years.. Myself included!

Mine started when it was 7 years from purchase and I daily drove mine for the first 4 years through Rain, Snow, Ice and Salt.

m05fastbackGT Jan 1, 2022 09:41 PM

Do you think the reason yours started 7 years after purchase was from driving the first 4 years through Rain, Snow, Ice and Salt? Guess I'm pretty fortunate as mine always stays garage kept and has never been exposed to neither Snow, Ice or Road Salt :dunno:

Siber Express Jan 2, 2022 09:19 AM

That was probably part of the reason. I know of someone that the only time his GT ever got wet since he owned it was when it was washed and his started in the first 2 years and has been fixed for the 3rd time. Ford fixed it the first time and the body shop the dealership uses the other 2 for free since they have a lifetime warranty on repairs. They also told him he is buying the hood on the next one and they will paint it and it is done. That is the same body shop that painted mine and told me I fixed mine right.
Since the hood has minute pieces of metal left in the seam in front when it is bent over the starts after the first time the car gets wet and penetrants the seam.

m05fastbackGT Jan 2, 2022 10:22 AM

You would think with how late model vehicles have improved since making the upgrade to galvanized body panels along with improvements in undercoating, they would last much longer.
Unfortunately, when it comes to these aluminum body panels, Ford still cant seem to find a real solution despite 16 years after the debut of the S197 models.
Well here's the solution Ford, ditch the aluminum body panels and go back to making them from galvanized steel, problem solved!

DSWEET869 Jan 10, 2022 08:26 PM

2006 Ford Mustang Convertible
 
Paint on Hood bubble and coming 📴.


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