Yeah that's "back in the day". Even my Dad used to say "if its not using a qt per thousand you're not getting enough upper cylinder lubrication!". lol

 

No problem, cd4537! Any news on your car? Please let me know if you need me!

Deysha

 

Dealer called today and said they are certain the engine is damaged. My advisor was 99% sure that I would get a new engine. He said Ford has insisted that they tear the engine down to determine the cause of the failure before they authorize a replacement instead of a repair. The dealer confirmed that there were no leaks and were pretty certain the car came off the truck with less oil than required. He told me that checking the oil is no longer part of the Pre Delivery Inspection. I made it very clear that there is absolutely NO WAY i will ever ever accept a repaired engine in my brand new car. I hope FORD does the right thing. Updates to follow.

 

I'm saving Deysha until I absolutely need her..We'll see why they say tomorrow.

 

Really surprised at that... Hope it works out!!

 

Maybe I missed it in the thread, but I would be questioning why/how a 2012 model car could be 3-4 quarts low on oil and not have a low oil warning light, message or something come on. Does it have one? I mean cars 20 years ago had low oil sensors.

 

This is so unbelievable, just a basic simple 2 minute inspection could've prevented that engine failure.

 

I find it unacceptable that checking the oil is not part of the PMI. That makes no sense. I would expect all the fluids to be checked and topped off as required, just as I expect air to be in the tires, and at the correct pressure.

 

 

X2. WTF?!

 

I've seen threads that the gauge system in S197 Mustangs are all idiot gauges. They are an "all or nothing" gauge and don't actually provide a variable reading. True?

 

I know they are connected via ECU, but the gauges do work by degree - not all or nothing.

Then there are idiot lights as a warning, and fail-safe mode after that.

 

i wouldn't except a rebuilt or new motor option...i would demand a brand new car,a replacement car till it's built....or they would hear from my attorney...

good luck...hope everything works out....

 

The hard part is finding a one tooth ring gear!

 

I don't recall seeing anything in the owner's manual saying that there is a low oil warning light.

 

Is it under "Instrument Cluster/Warning Lights & Chimes"? Maybe its only the gauge.

 

Any updates? It has been sometime now...

 

Yeah, Iam curious as to the outcome. OP, did you get a loaner car? New motor or what?

 

Still don't have my car. Dealer called and said Ford finally authorized them to replace the engine. He said they were not going to put in a "short block" (whatever that is!) but a whole new engine off the line. I'm not familiar with these terms and I haven't had time to google them! Anyway, dealer said they'd keep me posted. I have a brand new loaner car, so I'm really in no rush.

 

Short block would be just the block assembly with crank and pistons - but reuse your existing heads.
A long block is the entire new engine - block and heads complete.
Since damage could both be in the bottom end and the valve train (cams, etc.)/heads, they are doing good for you by replacing the entire engine!