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Old 8/12/11, 11:39 PM
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No Oil!!!!

About 2 blocks from my house and i hear a noise from my 2012 5.0. Sounds like a stick being placed into a metal fan. Got home and checked the oil...ZERO oil on the stick!!!! I have 2300 miles and admittedly haven't checked the oil since I got the car...but i don't expect to need to with a brand new $41,000 car! She is parked in my garage every night (and not driven daily) so I know the oil didn't leak. Can't wait to have the dealer tow it in. Has my engine been damaged? What response should I expect from Ford? Could this car have burned 8 quarts of oil in 2300 miles???
Old 8/13/11, 06:07 AM
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While normal to use oil during break-in, there is no way it used 8 quarts. You would have noticed that much oil consumption. If not by the smell, then by the massive bluish-gray plume of smoke following your car around.

Also, there should be an oil level sensor. My 1992 Explorer had one. If oil got too low (but not yet dangerously low), the oil light would come on. It's possible that sensor could fail, but there is no way you lost all 8 quarts without noticing spilled oil on the ground or smoke as it burned off.

Have you added oil to it now? Did the noise go away when you added oil? Or are you not touching it until the dealer sees it?
Old 8/13/11, 06:29 AM
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Thanks for the quick response Berol. I didn't notice any of those symptoms. No lights, warnings, smells, smoke...nothing. The car ran absolutely perfect until last night. I won't touch it until the dealer tows it in.
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a) Just because it doesn't show on the dipstick doesn't mean there is zero oil left. But I get that the point is it was WAY too low.

b) I don't get why anyone would drive a car thousands of miles without checking the oil, especially on a new car when anything could be going on. I've been chided on this forum for being an oil-checker (I checked my car's oil @ delivery, before I started it up with 4.5 miles on it), but at least I know what my oil level is.

Oh well, good luck to you and let us know how it turns out for you.

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+1 to Eric. Typically a dipstick only shows the top quart or lack thereof.
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If you were just driving the car you normally don't get much oil on the dipstick. How long did you let it sit before checking the oil?

You need to give enough time for the oil to come back down from the valve train and such.
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Plus... did you look at your oil pressure gauge?

Don't know about the noise though.
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Oil pressure was fine...checked oil again this A.M. ~ still not a drop on the stick. Spoke to dealer this morning, they told me not to add any oil and not to start the car...they will send a tow Monday morning.
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Originally Posted by cd4537
Oil pressure was fine...checked oil again this A.M. ~ still not a drop on the stick. Spoke to dealer this morning, they told me not to add any oil and not to start the car...they will send a tow Monday morning.
I have to agree with that course of action, from the standpoint of the dealer seeing the car exactly as you found it and not causing any more damage. But the inconvenience of it all really sucks. Hopefully they will treat you right.
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I would not tell them you have not checked the oil in it. It is a good habit to check oil at every fill up. Probably heard it before.
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
(I checked my car's oil @ delivery, before I started it up with 4.5 miles on it)
4.5 miles at delivery?! Awww man, someone helped you seat the rings....
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Originally Posted by jaybertx
4.5 miles at delivery?! Awww man, someone helped you seat the rings....
As evidenced by the much longer period between build date and delivery date for me, it's obviously a much more direct route from Troy Michigan to Sarasota Florida, than it is from Troy, MI to Newport News, VA.

That or maybe Lave Red was less appeaking to Ford/delivery personnel for driving around around than Grabber Blue.

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Gonna love to hear how the dealer tries to weasel out of this one....
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Originally Posted by 2012GT
Gonna love to hear how the dealer tries to weasel out of this one....
He's got nothing to worry about. There is a good chance it was filled low from the factory, but that aside, there is absolutely nothing in the manual that states you are required to check the oil every level every couple hundred or thousand miles, nor any special procedures for engine break-in regarding the oil level and such.

We've seen lots of reports about how this new 5.0 motor appears to be burning oil during break-in, and until Ford puts out a TSB or Recall, we just need to work through the problems.

My motor burned through about 1-quart every 5,000 miles. Now that my car has about 18,500 miles on it, the oil consumption has stopped.
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Originally Posted by kn7671
He's got nothing to worry about. There is a good chance it was filled low from the factory, but that aside, there is absolutely nothing in the manual that states you are required to check the oil every level every couple hundred or thousand miles, nor any special procedures for engine break-in regarding the oil level and such.

We've seen lots of reports about how this new 5.0 motor appears to be burning oil during break-in, and until Ford puts out a TSB or Recall, we just need to work through the problems.

My motor burned through about 1-quart every 5,000 miles. Now that my car has about 18,500 miles on it, the oil consumption has stopped.
The SMG in the Qwners Manual states that you check your oil once a month.
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Oil is overrated. This engine can run on the souls of crushed Camaros alone...
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Originally Posted by TheReaper
The SMG in the Qwners Manual states that you check your oil once a month.
What if I drive a million miles a month?
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
What if I drive a million miles a month?
Then you need to have it changed at least every 3 hours and 36 minutes. On average.
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Originally Posted by jaybertx
Oil is overrated. This engine can run on the souls of crushed Camaros alone...
thats the dream
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs

Then you need to have it changed at least every 3 hours and 36 minutes. On average.
Lol!


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