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RRS197 May 16, 2018 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Vartech (Post 7029846)
that is odd, was your car a sync xm car before and does it have the hockey puck on the trunk?


Nope mines a base with track pack and sync.

awoychosky123 May 23, 2018 04:26 PM

I got a problem with a install I’m doing, the microphone won’t pic any noise up and the dtc is just a General Electric failure. This is really beating the crap out of me, I did this retrofit fine in my 2012 but in my 2010 I can’t do it, I have tried multiple microphones both 13 and 10 style, I have tried 2 radio heads one has 2013 programming other is 2010, and I tried 3 different sync modules, 2 nav and one standard sync. I have been trying fords procedures in the service manual but nothing is working. I have continuity through all the leads but the I can’t get the mic working...

cholmes1 Jun 4, 2018 07:33 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...ed7b73f90.jpeg




Just need to update the map now
Add one more to the list. Many thanks to Jim for the idea and a lifetime thanks to Alex for his brilliant install. Now have a 13’ Boss LS with navigation and a dual zone climate system. Also, as you can see in the picture, the VIN automatically pulls from the CAN.



Thanks also go out to all the thread members that answered questions. It has all been greatly appreciated.

Vartech Jun 7, 2018 02:27 PM

Just completed the oem nav install and the 2014 cluster with select a shift and abs module. I am having an issue with the sync button and hang up button on steering wheel. I did get the one from nav sticky. But now my car reads as 2013 could that be the reason they do not work. they are giving me an error in ids B1201 steering wheel audio switch pack 2 failure type 1C circuit voltage out of range. I was told that my sync module needs to be one with nav installed. my question is it possible to program the sync module or does someone offer this service? Or am I going to have to find a used module? awoychosky123 has been helping me on this and he is amazing

Vartech Jun 8, 2018 09:18 AM

I was able to use forscan to program the APIM still getting issue but now the error is only acm error Description B1201 steering audio switch pack 2 Failure type 1C circuit out of range. Status 0A (current DTC) Fault is currently present Diagnostic Protocol -14229

How do I test the switch to make sure that is not the issue and is there anything else I should check?

awoychosky123 Jun 8, 2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Vartech (Post 7030881)
I was able to use forscan to program the APIM still getting issue but now the error is only acm error Description B1201 steering audio switch pack 2 Failure type 1C circuit out of range. Status 0A (current DTC) Fault is currently present Diagnostic Protocol -14229

How do I test the switch to make sure that is not the issue and is there anything else I should check?

Just shot you a pm. For everyone not following, 2013 they updated the nav switch part number. So if you are running with a 2013 acm and apim you will probably need the 2013 switch as resistors may have changed.

awoychosky123 Jun 8, 2018 10:06 AM

I forgot to mention if you do want to test the switch first I do have the 2013 service manual with pinpoint test R I could send you, but unless you have fords diagnostic equipment all you could really do is use a multimeter and measure resistance and power.

jim010 Jun 8, 2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by cholmes1 (Post 7030691)

Add one more to the list. Many thanks to Jim for the idea and a lifetime thanks to Alex for his brilliant install. Now have a 13’ Boss LS with navigation and a dual zone climate system. Also, as you can see in the picture, the VIN automatically pulls from the CAN.



Thanks also go out to all the thread members that answered questions. It has all been greatly appreciated.

Huh ... mine did NOT update the VIN. After all these years, it still displays the donor car's VIN.

jim010 Jun 8, 2018 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by awoychosky123 (Post 7030884)
Just shot you a pm. For everyone not following, 2013 they updated the nav switch part number. So if you are running with a 2013 acm and apim you will probably need the 2013 switch as resistors may have changed.

All I know is that the phone switches for a nav car vs a non-nav car are not the same. You will definitley need to get a phone switch specific to a nav car.

Vartech Jun 8, 2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by jim010 (Post 7030894)
Huh ... mine did NOT update the VIN. After all these years, it still displays the donor car's VIN.

I did what Fishpick said and took my original vin .ab file and edited to contain the updated module information then I used IDS disconnected from the internet to update PCM which it took from edited .ab file and since I am using 108.01 it just asked me to enter the info for the abs, ipc and arm. Used Forscan to update APIM. My car now shows my vin but shows up on ids as 2013. So waiting to get updated tune which I was told 13/14 have different torque specs and hopefully the new switch will fix nav issue.

Vartech Jun 8, 2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by awoychosky123 (Post 7030886)
I forgot to mention if you do want to test the switch first I do have the 2013 service manual with pinpoint test R I could send you, but unless you have fords diagnostic equipment all you could really do is use a multimeter and measure resistance and power.

Thanks ordered switch and will take it from there

Vartech Jun 15, 2018 01:21 PM

new switch still same issue. Anyone have any thoughts?

jim010 Jun 15, 2018 01:36 PM

Give me all the details about your car again.

what year is it?

nav is retrofit
is sync retrofit?
what cluster do you have?

jim010 Jun 15, 2018 01:41 PM

And can you take a picture of the switch you have on there now?

Vartech Jun 15, 2018 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by jim010 (Post 7031168)
Give me all the details about your car again.

what year is it? 2011 mustang gt

nav is retrofit (yes)
is sync retrofit? (no)
what cluster do you have?

added a 2014 cluster did wiring for left switch (seems to work ok and arrows work so does cruise on. I have not done the rest since I have not driven the car)and changed the steering wheel harness for a 2013/2014.


Could there be a short. I see that the left switch C2999 connection 3 and 2 are for phone and voice which is what I am having issue. Can I just connect the switch to 6 and 4 on C2274a to see if it works? I would disconnect switch from harness and use old harness to splice the two wires bypassing the clock spring. would that work?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...74fe9b944.jpeg

switch I am using

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...11dbe0814.jpeg

Error I am getting

jim010 Jun 15, 2018 02:41 PM

Looks like the right switch alright.

Try it.

I don't have my wiring diagrams, so I can't look at any of this for you yet.

Vartech Jun 15, 2018 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by jim010 (Post 7031176)
Looks like the right switch alright.

Try it.

I don't have my wiring diagrams, so I can't look at any of this for you yet.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...bd192e7b80.jpg


This is the diagram I am using. I will try this tonight or Saturday and keep you posted thanks for your help

Vartech Jun 16, 2018 04:52 PM

Ok this is my issue the buttons work outside usb and Bluetooth audio. in navigation in radio fine. when I hit voice and select usb from radio it works but it does not give me an option for playlist or song or anything just shows usb same thing with Bluetooth audio at that point the voice button does not work. in radio I hit voice it ask for radio station etc. So is the software wrong on acm and how do I fix it?https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...c561f4501.jpegSelected off and now it works

konasnake Jun 19, 2018 10:14 PM

I have been reading this thread so much lately. I got all my stuff, except the gps/satellite splitter harness. I was hoping it would come with the Dash harness. Now, I have to order another $150 plus part before I dig into this. I am going aftermarket Amp. My main concern is the dash. I want to take the dash out, but do I have to remove the steering wheel? If I do, I may just tackle it with all panels removed. I got a nav unit from a 2013, do it have a built in amp? I am sure I have more questions, but must go to bed. Thanks for this thread, it is a big help. Anybody have the gps/satellite splitter harness laying around willing to sell?

konasnake Jun 27, 2018 07:32 PM

Update: Add another successful mod to the list. I did my 2012 GT500, now all I am waiting on is the gps splitter harness and a after market amp. Everything works so far, even reads my vin. Sirius works, synch works (minus the phone buttons), I get a little sound, that's about it. two quick questions....I have a nav from a camera car, I have a camera installed (connected to Kenwood head unit), it has a RCA jack. How do I connect it to the ACM (search with zero results). The camera feature works, just a black screen. Second question, do anyone makes a harness to bypass the stock amp so I can use the stock wiring and not have to cut, splice, or run new wires for sound? I don't want a booming system, just enough to enjoy and all features work. I have contemplating this project for a while, worth while. Not very hard, once all bolts were loose, dash came out easy, I did take the steering column off.


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