crazietj

That is how I have it but the 13 has something wierd. The pins are the same but on the acm it has mic in and mono in. But on the 12 it has mic out and mono out at the acm

LEXiiON

That is exactly the same diagram as i posted. There is no difference, other than that MIC OUT is for Navigation only.

LEXiiON

LEXiiON

Ok. According to your diagramms, the MIC is wired differently into the APIM:

Old MIC PIN 5 for + and 6 for -
New MIC PIN 18 for + 5 for - and 6 for ground.

Did you change that accordingly, including the ground?

LEXiiON

crazietj

Yes. Still nothing

LEXiiON

Did you try to test the microphone with you cell? Like calling someone and see if they can hear you?

LEXiiON

Do you have the correct steering wheel switch? I can send you my old one to test.

LEXiiON

crazietj

Yes, I did it from the front control and re dialed my wife. And she couldn't hear me.

crazietj

I'm not sure. Thanks.

LEXiiON

Is the microphone a 2009 one? Maybe it is different than the 2013, obviously the mirror from the other cars didn't work, so it might be also different from the 10-12.
LEXiiON

crazietj

I was going to suggest sending you my sync module and see if it works with your car. But I'll try the switch first. Because in order for you to test my module you would have to re pin the connector that goes to sync module for the mic to work

LEXiiON

When you press the switch for voice, what happens? Is the sync lady asking you something?

LEXiiON

crazietj

I have both. One from the 09. And one from a 13. The 13 is in the overhead lights.

crazietj

Nope. It doesn't do anything. On my wifes escape if you hit the voice button sync will say say a command. Mine doesn't say anything. If I hit the phone button in hers it will switch to phone. Mine doesnt.

LEXiiON

So the 13 mic wired up correctly to the 13 sync doesn't give you any microphone when calling? That sounds like an issue with the sync module. Maybe the incorrect wiring to start with screwed something up in the module?
Just a thought.

LEXiiON

LEXiiON

But you added the Blue-Orange wire as well as the white- violet from the switch to the ACM?

That is strange. Something is weird here ...

LEXiiON

crazietj

Very possible. I have located a 12 module. I may give it a try too.

LEXiiON

If you do, change the wiring before you plug it in.
I can still send you the switch... But I am not sure, if that solves the switch issue. Make sure the addtl. Wires in the steering wheel have a solid connection into the switch
LEXiiON

crazietj

Well i will look into it tomorrow more. Thanks for the help. I wish we all lived closer. You guys rock with this retro fit stuff!

LEXiiON

Switch is in the mail.

LEXiiON

jim010

I can tell you that the pinouts on C290A - the one that plugs into the ACM, are the same on both the 2012 and 2014s. Even pins 4 and 5 are the same on both according to the connector views in the wiring manuals.

For the 2014 wiring diagram manual, when looking at the wiring diagrams, what it says pins 4, 5, 11 and 12 will do does not match what they say they are for in the connector views.

This is not the first time that there are screw ups in Ford's wiring diagrams. Did you try it before you changed out those pins?

Also, I am looking at the pinouts for C2383 on the sync module.

The following are different on C2383:

2012

6 - microphone - phone voice control
18 - not used


2014

6 - ground
18 - microphone - phone voice control

Pretty much as you have confirmed. Do you even get a chime when you press the sync button on the wheel?