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Old 7/29/14, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
EMP proof.
I am guessing a non EMP hardened MSD box will be part of the mix.
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On your website you mention choosing a V6 over a V8 for gas mileage.
After this swap you can kiss your V6 gas mileage good-bye.

This is going to be an amazing transplant!
Well, I did. And then I got the sickness (again). I simply can't help myself.
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Originally Posted by BBM3
I am guessing a non EMP hardened MSD box will be part of the mix.
I'm also going to havre an EMP-proof Mallory dual point distributor in the garge in the event of an EMP. Of course, the gas pumps are electronic now, and they won't work...
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Start date is all but cast in stone - August 01.
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I've always thought your car was one of the sweetest; now you're taking it up a couple notches! Hope the job goes well. Man, I sure would like to take a ride in that car!
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This is going to be great!!!
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This may be the strangest swap I've seen in quite a while. Lots more room in there than you'd think there would be when you see it placed in. What are the specs on that engine? Is it that FRPP stroker based on the Boss 351 block?
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I would happily take your old engine and trans off your hands!

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More power to ya man!
Literally.
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So, my question is, what are you doing with the ECU and everything hooked up to it? I don't know the computers on these cars that well, but I'd think most stuff would be tied into it, from the radio to the message center on the instrument cluster. Maybe the ABS too? Again, I don't know crap about what's tied into the ECU...I'm just wondering.

Lookin forward to how this turns out
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So many questions come to mind but also "damnnnn that looks fun"!

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Originally Posted by Supersnake04
I would happily take your old engine and trans off your hands!
$2000 plus shipping, and it's yours.

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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
This may be the strangest swap I've seen in quite a while. Lots more room in there than you'd think there would be when you see it placed in. What are the specs on that engine? Is it that FRPP stroker based on the Boss 351 block?
Dart SHP block
AFR 205 heads with 1.7 rockers
Trickflow stage 3 cam
Edelbrock Air Gap intake
850CFP QuickFuel carb
Tremec Magnum XL T56

When you can put the headers in from the top on BOTH sides, you know there's a lot of room in the engine bay.
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So, my question is, what are you doing with the ECU and everything hooked up to it? I don't know the computers on these cars that well, but I'd think most stuff would be tied into it, from the radio to the message center on the instrument cluster. Maybe the ABS too? Again, I don't know crap about what's tied into the ECU...I'm just wondering.

Lookin forward to how this turns out
We've identified the sensors we need, and we're going to take the wiring harness and remove all non-essential wiring and connectors.
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Originally Posted by jsimmons
We've identified the sensors we need, and we're going to take the wiring harness and remove all non-essential wiring and connectors.
Did you weigh the V6 and 427 to see what the difference in weight is? Just curious. Also did you need a custom K-member?
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Originally Posted by laserred38
Did you weigh the V6 and 427 to see what the difference in weight is? Just curious. Also did you need a custom K-member?
No, we don't weigh it. We're gonna weigh the car when it's done. We figure it will weigh less than 100 lbs more than a GT.

The k-member is from BMR, made specifically to put a Windsor into a s197.
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Originally Posted by jsimmons
No, we don't weigh it. We're gonna weigh the car when it's done. We figure it will weigh less than 100 lbs more than a GT. The k-member is from BMR, made specifically to put a Windsor into a s197.
Wow nice. And not bad on the weight. I gotta assume some of that is coming from the Tremec right?
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Okay, pics from day 02:

Gas pedal - had convert to a throttle cable system, so I started out with a Fox Mustang gas pedal. The holes that mount the Fox pedal are exactly the same as the left side S197 holes.



However, when we stuck the pedal on the studs, we found that the pedal is too high and too far to the left, so we fabricated an adapter plate that utilized the factory hole locations, and allowed us to position the Fox pedal in a more favorable location.




Here it is mounted in the car, along with the brake/clutch pedal setup we also had to install.



After we finished the pedal, we were able to determine where to drill the holes for the Fox (manual transmission) throttle cable.



Next, we tried installing the pre-2010 master cylinder reservoir (for the hydraulic clutch). It turns out that the reservoir is too freakin' wide, and prevents the use of the vacuum fitting on the brake booster. I had to order a new reservoir from Ford, but here's a pic with an arrow pointing to where the vacuum fitting should be.



Finally, we mounted the crank trigger wheel (from a late model 302 Bronco) and pulley, and attached the alternator bracket and two of the three a/c brackets. I got the wrong front bracket and had to order one from AM for a 351w swap. Arrgg. Here's a pic of the trigger wheel mounted:



We had issues getting the transmission in the car, so there are no more pictures from what turned out to be a very long day.

I'll be spending the next couple of days (while the shop is closed) stripping the protective wrap from the wiring harness so we can cut away the wiring we don't need.
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Originally Posted by jsimmons
Okay, pics from day 02:

I'll be spending the next couple of days (while the shop is closed) stripping the protective wrap from the wiring harness so we can cut away the wiring we don't need.
Wow lots of progress in a couple of days.
Now begins the million details.
Thanks for flipping us the bird. Nice touch.


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