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Rush1FiveO Sep 23, 2011 02:20 PM

Need suspension help!
 
I purchased an Eibach Pro-Kit set, is it necessary to install camber plates along with the springs upgrade?

AlsCobra Sep 23, 2011 02:23 PM

Most people will tell you yes. And it definitely will make aligning it better. I'm lowered and don't have cc plates but you have to find a really good alignment guy to set it right. If you can swing for the cc plates, go for it.

Rush1FiveO Sep 23, 2011 02:35 PM

Thanks. I will definitely purchase them now. It was just confusing because the vids posted on AM showed only the springs being installed.

Rush1FiveO Sep 23, 2011 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rush1FiveO (Post 6146552)
Thanks. I will definitely purchase them now. It was just confusing because the vids posted on AM showed only the springs being installed.

Will the FRPP GT500 Style Strut Mount upgrade be sufficient?

AlsCobra Sep 23, 2011 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rush1FiveO
Thanks. I will definitely purchase them now. It was just confusing because the vids posted on AM showed only the springs being installed.

Yeah, the cc plates just make life easier. I'm an alignment specialist and mine is aligned without them but I'll probably put some on one day.

Glenn Sep 23, 2011 06:27 PM

you can use camber bolts and save yourself some cash. With out a dobt. Ntb can do firestone goodyear and even sears stores that still have the auto centers can do it. NTB can do it without hurting your rims.

Glenn Sep 23, 2011 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rush1FiveO (Post 6146558)
Will the FRPP GT500 Style Strut Mount upgrade be sufficient?

The gt mounts are as good as the gt 500 mounts. You will not be able to tell the difference between the two. Well maybe in the price. Either way you will be fine.

sam strano Sep 27, 2011 10:40 AM

Hang on a minute here....

First, it doesn't matter how good the alignment guy is, the car does not have camber adjustment in it stock. Unless he's a magician, he can't adjust the camber with no other method added to facilitate that. All you can do is toe. And the car will have more negative camber in it when you add lowering springs, period.

You could do it cheap and use aftermarket camber bolts, I sell one set for $27.50 (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&ModelID=35) And they do adjust camber to get it back in spec. But they are also small and hold much less torque than stock bolts, so I recommend other methods.

GT500 mounts have on adjustment, and are basically identical to the stock 2005-2010 mounts in any GT, just with a stiffer rubber part (which isn't what fails). So that's not going to help camber in the least.

I recommend two options. Either a set of adjustable mounts/camber plates. For street cars I like the Steeda HD mounts, and there is one specific to the 2011+ struts (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&PartID=855) as well as for the older type struts, which currently ALL AFTERMARKET STRUTS ARE (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&PartID=446) if you upgrade the dampers. Or keep the stock strut mounts, and use the Steeda billet camber adjusters: http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&ModelID=35

BlackMamba03 Sep 27, 2011 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by sam strano (Post 6148759)
Hang on a minute here....

First, it doesn't matter how good the alignment guy is, the car does not have camber adjustment in it stock. Unless he's a magician, he can't adjust the camber with no other method added to facilitate that. All you can do is toe. And the car will have more negative camber in it when you add lowering springs, period.

You could do it cheap and use aftermarket camber bolts, I sell one set for $27.50 (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&ModelID=35) And they do adjust camber to get it back in spec. But they are also small and hold much less torque than stock bolts, so I recommend other methods.

GT500 mounts have on adjustment, and are basically identical to the stock 2005-2010 mounts in any GT, just with a stiffer rubber part (which isn't what fails). So that's not going to help camber in the least.

I recommend two options. Either a set of adjustable mounts/camber plates. For street cars I like the Steeda HD mounts, and there is one specific to the 2011+ struts (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&PartID=855) as well as for the older type struts, which currently ALL AFTERMARKET STRUTS ARE (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&PartID=446) if you upgrade the dampers. Or keep the stock strut mounts, and use the Steeda billet camber adjusters: http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...224&ModelID=35

What about the Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates? I've seen alot of the Boss owners install them and track their cars and have nothing but good things to say about them.

wproctor411 Sep 27, 2011 03:57 PM

I use the Steeda HD mounts and they are great. I have MM plates on my 90' and they worked great too. It's nice to have even tire ware.

06GT Sep 27, 2011 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by BlackMamba03 (Post 6148912)
What about the Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates? I've seen alot of the Boss owners install them and track their cars and have nothing but good things to say about them.

I have them, and of course they will work, but they are $340. They are very useful for adjusting between "street" and "track" camber settings.

However, if you just need to "set em and forget em", the bolts are probably the best (cheapest) way to go.

Also you could try elongating the upper bolt hole on the strut-to-spindle flange to let the spindle move towards the strut body more. This procedure is included in the FRPP handling pack kit as a way to increase negative camber to compensate for the included Pro-Kit springs.

sam strano Sep 28, 2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by BlackMamba03 (Post 6148912)
What about the Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates? I've seen alot of the Boss owners install them and track their cars and have nothing but good things to say about them.

I also carry those... but I tend to keep those more for track cars, and the Steeda's I recommend more for street cars. The MM's use a spherical bearing that can make more noise than the Steeda mounts which use urethane bushings.

I'm not knocking the MM's. I sold 2 sets yesterday... I just think if it's a street car that the Steeda's are a better choice.

BlackMamba03 Sep 28, 2011 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by sam strano (Post 6149489)
I also carry those... but I tend to keep those more for track cars, and the Steeda's I recommend more for street cars. The MM's use a spherical bearing that can make more noise than the Steeda mounts which use urethane bushings.

I'm not knocking the MM's. I sold 2 sets yesterday... I just think if it's a street car that the Steeda's are a better choice.


Thanks for the good advice Sam. Once I get my suspension done, I'm going to be tracking so I'll be giving you a call for the MM plates.

Glenn Sep 28, 2011 05:51 PM

SAM is THE MAN

Rush1FiveO Sep 29, 2011 01:54 AM

Ahhh dangit man... I just purchased the eibach bolts this morning, thinking it would be sufficient. gotta go back in and cancel the order asap. Thanks Sam for the input!

BlackMamba03 Sep 29, 2011 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Rush1FiveO (Post 6150010)
Ahhh dangit man... I just purchased the eibach bolts this morning, thinking it would be sufficient. gotta go back in and cancel the order asap. Thanks Sam for the input!


Bolts = no beuno in my book. Plates are the way to go.

Music man in Pcola Oct 31, 2013 04:03 PM

I had Steeda UltraLite springs and Steeda HD upper strut mounts installed in my 2012GT and the best alignment specs I can get equals -1.3 camber with the stock bolts installed. I have a set of Eibach camber bolts and wonder if I should have them installed as well to get a slightly less aggressive alignment...even though I love the handling. I do expect more rapid tire wear.

Bocefus Nov 1, 2013 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Rush1FiveO (Post 6146558)
Will the FRPP GT500 Style Strut Mount upgrade be sufficient?

worked for me


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