Oh well, maybe next time, Jaimie Mac wins!
2/14/10, 05:41 PM
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Oh well, maybe next time, Jaimie Mac wins!
Congratz to Jaimie Mac and the #1 team! It's a Chevy (duh) but Jaimie is a good guy! Chevy wins another Daytona500 , What else is new?
2/14/10, 05:46 PM
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Unbelievable.
He drove 4 years for Roush, only won two races, and right after he left Roush - Jamie McMurray won Daytona 500.
He drove 4 years for Roush, only won two races, and right after he left Roush - Jamie McMurray won Daytona 500.
2/14/10, 07:59 PM
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[quote=ShowGT;5816978]And that 2011 GT 5.0 was hot folks! Love the grille setup no doubt
Congrats to Jamie! What an awesome race! Great to see FORD doing well with Petty! I really enjoyed watching Truex do well up front all day, too! My interest in NASCAR has been rekindled!
2/15/10, 05:35 AM
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that pot hole was frustrating....but NASCAR sure made the most out of that new Green white checked rule. Congrats to Nascar for making the changes it did for this race....seemed like all of them worked super well.... now if we could just get rid of that yellow line..
2/15/10, 06:05 AM
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To make it interesting they should make the new green-white -checkered rule decided by a flip of a coin at the beginning of a race- heads 1 green white checkered or tails the new rule! That way it rids us of any chance of 1 team taking advantage or NASCAR playing favorites again like they are once again. They say it's for the fans ... BULL ! I find it interesting that when a Ford is winning a race, 12 laps to go, someone wrecks, we got debris on the track, or some other excuse, but when a Chevy is winning, it miraculously goes clean to the end! This race was no different! The 3 attemps at a green-white-checkered is Nascar's reaction to so many new Ford teams and their commitment to do better this season! You watch, if Ford beats Chevy at their own game this season, there will be wholesale rule changes once again to keep Ford behind! But if Chevy wins the majority of the races like they will likely do, all will be left alone! I hate NASCAR! My favorite (pet pieve) excuse to throw a caution is someone has slowed on the track because they "ran out of gas" and didn't make it all the way back to the pits! Harvick pulled that on Martin a few years ago when Martin had the race in the bag. Who won it? A Chevy team!
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2/15/10, 10:27 AM
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wow....down boy.
maybe check the grassy knoll for more conspiracy theories... do you have any idea how silly you sound? Nascar has nothing to gain from Chevy for "letting" them win.. GM has no money....
maybe check the grassy knoll for more conspiracy theories... do you have any idea how silly you sound? Nascar has nothing to gain from Chevy for "letting" them win.. GM has no money....
2/15/10, 11:35 AM
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GM is still spending around $80 milion per year on NASCAR program, or about 50% more than Ford.
I think it all started back in 1971 when Chrysler and Ford left NASCAR and GM stayed. That pretty much saved NASCAR and GM had special privileges since. They kept changing rules every time any Ford's driver or team was a success (Chase after Kenseth's 2003 championship, 4 car rule after Roush qualified all 5 of his driver in 2005 Chase) or when popular Chevy drivers were not a success (changing # of Chase drivers from 10 to 12 when Stewart, Gordon and Earnhardt didn't qualify for Chase, but wouldn't do anything when Edwards and Biffle missed it).
Anyone remember that race at Talladega few years ago (2008) when Johnson was fighting Edwards for a championship? And how they called cautions every time Johnson needed it? That race decided a champion.
And Red Pony is exactly correct when he said that every time Ford is up front in the final laps - NASCAR always finds a way to call a caution. Which rarely happens when Chevy is leading the race in the final laps.
Brian France is the worst thing that happened to a NASCAR.
I think it all started back in 1971 when Chrysler and Ford left NASCAR and GM stayed. That pretty much saved NASCAR and GM had special privileges since. They kept changing rules every time any Ford's driver or team was a success (Chase after Kenseth's 2003 championship, 4 car rule after Roush qualified all 5 of his driver in 2005 Chase) or when popular Chevy drivers were not a success (changing # of Chase drivers from 10 to 12 when Stewart, Gordon and Earnhardt didn't qualify for Chase, but wouldn't do anything when Edwards and Biffle missed it).
Anyone remember that race at Talladega few years ago (2008) when Johnson was fighting Edwards for a championship? And how they called cautions every time Johnson needed it? That race decided a champion.
And Red Pony is exactly correct when he said that every time Ford is up front in the final laps - NASCAR always finds a way to call a caution. Which rarely happens when Chevy is leading the race in the final laps.
Brian France is the worst thing that happened to a NASCAR.
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2/15/10, 11:46 AM
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I guess I just more faith in people than that....
...if this is so true, why doesnt' Roush have the ***** to call NASCAR out on it. It just seems too silly for anyone to believe, thats why.
He'd sound like Pat Robertson claiming God's judgment in natural disasters... which Ironically I don't completely disagree with, but I still think its bad taste.
...if this is so true, why doesnt' Roush have the ***** to call NASCAR out on it. It just seems too silly for anyone to believe, thats why.
He'd sound like Pat Robertson claiming God's judgment in natural disasters... which Ironically I don't completely disagree with, but I still think its bad taste.
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2/15/10, 01:29 PM
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Actually it is probably more like GM spending ~$80-85M and FMC spending ~$60-65M.
Edit: Found some numbers . . .
At NASCAR's peak, GM spent as much as $130 million on the sport, Ford less than $100 million and Chrysler less than that, estimated Peter DeLorenzo, publisher of website www.autoextremist.com. Chrysler spent around $50 million in 2008 and cut that to a range of $30 million to $35 million this year, he added.
From a year ago . . .
General Motors, the biggest of Detroit's Big Three, has reduced its spending on NASCAR from a high of roughly $125 million a year to about $85 million, according to Peter De Lorenzo, a former automotive advertising executive and editor of AutoExtremist.com.
GM won't comment on the figures. But Terry Dolan, manager of Chevrolet racing, confirms that "all non-essential spending" has been cut. Chevrolet no longer has trackside corporate suites, for example. And its top dealers won't be treated to a trip to the Daytona 500 for a business meeting this year.
"The money we have invested here, to use a slang term, is focused on putting butts in seats of our cars," Dolan said.
Ford has reduced its spending on NASCAR by 35 percent, but remains committed to competing on the track and marketing through its success in the sport. The company's market research shows that NASCAR fans are its biggest fans, with 56 percent of Ford owners classifying themselves as race fans.
GM won't comment on the figures. But Terry Dolan, manager of Chevrolet racing, confirms that "all non-essential spending" has been cut. Chevrolet no longer has trackside corporate suites, for example. And its top dealers won't be treated to a trip to the Daytona 500 for a business meeting this year.
"The money we have invested here, to use a slang term, is focused on putting butts in seats of our cars," Dolan said.
Ford has reduced its spending on NASCAR by 35 percent, but remains committed to competing on the track and marketing through its success in the sport. The company's market research shows that NASCAR fans are its biggest fans, with 56 percent of Ford owners classifying themselves as race fans.
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2/15/10, 01:56 PM
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I think I read somewhere that Ford's NASCAR budget is around $40. Sorry, no link.
Especially because last year Ford had only 6 full time drivers, which is the least of 4 NASCAR manufacturers.
Especially because last year Ford had only 6 full time drivers, which is the least of 4 NASCAR manufacturers.
2/15/10, 04:02 PM
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Cody, I realize I must sound bitter to you over these trivial things, but if I am going to spend roughly on the average 4 hours on any given Sunday watching a Nascar Cup race, I don't want to hear D.W. saying how great the Chevys run every week, but when a Ford driver and team are doing good for a few weeks in a row that they are "stinking up the show"! There's a definate prejudice against Ford by certain higher-ups in Nascar! It's just enough to make me not want to waste my precious time on any given Sunday, especially if the weather is nice! But it's not important enough to notify Jesse Ventura nor is my sleep patterns going to suffer! Oh ,and by the way, every time Roush would do such a thing as call them out, Nascar would only make things worse for the Ford drivers and actually they would lose more ground than they would gain! It's like dealing with a woman- you might be absolutely in the right, but you're gonna pay dearly for that! 
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