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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Groan during low speed turning...the thread has disappeared!!!

Hey all,

Not long ago a TSB was posted for the rear axle whine during low speed turning. This was the one that required the replacement of the clutch packs. Anyone have it done and can someone please repost that TSB, I am taking mine in on Friday the 7th to have this fixed, and I want to go in armed!!

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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Ah grasshoppa, your search fu needs some training...

Check out this one first:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=10667

then this one:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=47311

and then this one:

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=48423

Debate's out I guess if adding the XL-3 is really the right solution, long term. But all I know is it worked for me and I didn't have to go to the dealer.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Here's the TSB: http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/gala...axel_noise.pdf All the posts in the world won't help you get warranty service, but the TSB will. Had the same problem, took them two tries to get it right - but now it's all fixed.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Galaxie, buzzy or starminder, can you post TSB 05-21-02? I have 20-02, but that is not covering the turning noise or clutchpacks!! Thanks
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Stang
Galaxie, buzzy or starminder, can you post TSB 05-21-02? I have 20-02, but that is not covering the turning noise or clutchpacks!! Thanks

I'm not Galaxie, buzzy or starminder but here you go:
This was the TSB for the 05 models:
http://www.2005stang.com/gallery/alb...end%20moan.pdf
Here it is for the 06:
http://www.2005stang.com/gallery/alb...moan-groan.pdf


I had this one done a couple of months back and no noise since.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Does anyone know what happens if you don't get this problem fixed? I've got it myself, but I simply won't have time to take my car in until august. Is this going to hurt anything?
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Thanks Donna!
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Question for yall...I dont know if I have 2 different problems or if my problem is just this TSB

First thing is I can feel some binding and it makes a very low crumbling type sound, mostly when im backing out of a parking spot, like it was a truck in 4wd

The other thing it does is if I am making a slow turn with the wheel turned pretty much all the way it will make a much louder humming type of sound from the rear.

Are these 2 related or is there too differetn TSB's?
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Just an update...Thanks to all TMS'ers again for making my life easy!!! I took it to the dealer with the TSB in hand, and 7 hours later, got my car back with new clutch packs and lubricant!!!!

Yeah, and the best part, total cost..$0.00!!!

-Darth
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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With 4.10 gears installed, what are my odds of having the dealer replace the clutch packs? Are the two related at all?
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 03:03 AM
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I just added the friction modifier to my rear end, seems to have done the trick. I used some thread sealer on the plug, anyone know if the rear end grease will eat away at the sealer? I know brake fluid eats teflon tape, but not sure about the rear end grease. Also, noticed quite a bit of metal shavings attached to the magnetic plug. Normal???
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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I just changed out my rear end oil (seal was leaking) and my plug was filled with metal shavings (10000k miles).
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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I have around 23,000 on mine and the plug was filled with shavings. The magnetic shavings goop was kinda fun to play with, I must admit, but it worried me a little seeing all that metal in there.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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can the dealer still do this TSB with 4.10 gears?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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so is this TSB required? if it is covering a true defect in the car ( i have the whine in mine and its an 07) if they are just replacing a unit that works fine just makes noise. i'll leave it.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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If you want to avoid taking it to the dealer, just get a bottle of XL-3 (about $5 at the dealer) and put it in the differential yourself. takes about 15 minutes and totally fixed mine.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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i just dont know if i care about fixing it. if it is just a little noise, then to mee there is nothing wrong. if this moaning is an actual issue with the car that could cause something to fail prematurely, then i'll fix it
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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In my case the moan/groan was loud enough to warrant get it fixed regardless. If you have the problem, you know it. If you're not hearing it, you don't have the problem.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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I would recommend getting it fixed no matter. What is actually happening is the clutch plates are chattering as they slide along each other. Remember the old time clutches in an old pickup truck, when you let out the clutch and the thing lurches about 6 times real quick while the clutch is grabbing? that's what the clutches are doing in the rear end, except much quicker so it sounds like a groan. They are chattering, and over time they will wear chatter marks (grooves) into the face of the clutches, making them less effective and more likely to wear out faster. Once they wear out, the rear end will still work fine, but you will not have the "limited slip" it will be like a regular open rear end.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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I have the automatic and I could have sworn I heard a groan as I was turning into my parking lot...I'm not sure I have the limited slip, either...I thought that was an option for '06 GT Automatics (I never saw it listed as an option on the window sticker). I now have 1,600 miles on the car. Is there a way to check to see if I have the limited slip axle (besides turning off the traction control and romping on the accelerator and seeing if I leave left and right treadmarks on the pavement)?
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