LLZuB

Im with ya on that one,

I wish the cops would enforce it more...it really isn't safe...and it is clearly stated that it is illegal (for off road use only).

it makes your car look like a civic and cheap..and they arn't very functional at all....i dunno why you would want that...but to each their own I guess ...May as well get a matching wing for your car too...

starbai

I love my kits from xenondepot.com xtreme HID's-- Relay powered... not plug and play... good stuff.

erickburke

Ya know, this is one of the reasons that pushed me into selecting the HID option. The cars running around with HID kits in a halogen headlight housing started to stand out to me and look cheaper and cheaper. The picture posted on page 1 is a perfect example.

Overboost

Order factory or don't bother.

starbai

I'm pretty happy with my RAxiom aftermarket lights, and xenon depot HIDs

FCMalie

Really not sure how Chuttoy's install "looks" cheap. It has good output and cutoffs. I realize it's all personal preference, but i think the factory HID housings look like garbage compared to the halogen ones.

Overboost

Point is, you're still using a halogen, non-projector style headlight housing and running HIDs from it. Not a good idea. They throw light all over the place, are a safety issue to others on the road, and look bad IMO.

I understand the frustration for not wanting to spend $920 for HIDs and Security. On the other hand, you know the system is designed properly and carries the factory warranty. You don't have to worry about blinding others on the road and the light output is leaps and bounds above the stock halogen housings.

FastRedPonyCar

Raxiom's are projector lenses.

http://v6mustangperformance.com/modi...llation-guide/


Anyways, if someone would honestly just build a head lamp housing with the turn signal on the INSIDE of the projector lens, I'd buy em. I just really don't want to hack up the factory housing.

LLZuB

Id be interested to see what type of projectors are being used in the Raxioms in order for them to be selling those so cheap.

I like the way the factory lights look...if the turn signal was on the inside it wouldn't make much sense would it?...I know it's like that on the halogen lights...but if the projectors take most of the attention when your looking at the front of the car...if they wern't where they were...people would probably not notice your turn signals when you were turning

HoosierDaddy

I would have but didn't want the 100+ lb weight increase. You can't get HID without the bloated Premium package. But since its a daily driver that will see virtually no night time driving other than city street speeds and well lit freeways its no biggie. I will upgrade the lighting some way if that changes.

Overboost

It's not 100 lbs. Here are some figures that were given to me. Both cars were filled up til the gas pump clicked off:

Deluxe with only options being Brembo package and 3.73's and no spoiler. 3593lbs

Premium with Brembo package, navigation, 3.73 and upgraded seats, no spoiler. 3642lbs

chutoyy

Do you mind taking pics of the beam against a flat wall? I've been asking around, but no one seems to have any pics of the beam itself....

I'm curious to see how easy it'll be to retrofit the Raxiom lights versus stock halogens... And if it's even worth it....

A picture like this... minus the car...

hawkeye18

My car has literally every option (down to and including the backup sensors) so I'll get mine weighed and see how much that is.

HoosierDaddy

If you saw with your own eyes, I'll take your word for it regarding those two cars. I've been told different numbers. If those are customer cars, how do we know what each had in the trunk, console, glove box, etc.? What about aftermarket tires and wheels? But even if its less than a hundred difference between premium and base its still way more than I want to lug around. I prefer my 3310 lb car to one well over 3600 and don't much care where all the weight savings came from.

Maybe the 5.0 motor is a LOT heavier than the 3.7 despite what the GT owners claim, the front sure feels a lot heavier in the GTs when cornering.

Or maybe my tires are filled with helium and those GTs had a lot of Heavy Metal in their playlists.

WhiteBird00

I wonder what lights were in that photo because the pattern appears wrong. The distinct cutoff and the "bump" in the middle is correct but there should be no slope in the cutoff. The photo looks like the cutoff slopes down to the right. Maybe it wasn't a level surface or something.

I have the Raxiom projector lamps but with just H11 halogen bulbs. The beam pattern on a wall is just like that picture except the cutoff is horizontal. I didn't bother adding an HID upgrade because merely switching to the projector lamps was such a huge upgrade over the stock reflectors that I didn't feel HIDs would be worth the money.

LLZuB

So does that mean the raxioms are not even a true HID projector? they're a halogen projector?

and if thats the case your right, HID's wouldn't be worth the money for the raxioms..as the cut off would have hot spots while using HID bulbs in a halogen projector...but it will work

FastRedPonyCar

Why do the raxiom's not use the stock H13 bulb type?

WhiteBird00

Yes, they are a halogen projector design. But no, that won't affect the beam pattern significantly. Projector lamps do most of their light shaping with the lens (the internal reflector is simply elliptical) and the movable shield plate. The change of position of the light source between a halogen bulb and an HID capsule is insignificant because the elliptical reflector reflects light outwards from all central positions within.

HoosierDaddy

For better lighting and not blinding people. An HID bulb arc is not in the same place in the bulb as a filament bulb. So you don't get the right pattern. A lot of the light ends up wasted or turns into glare and also goes where not wanted blinding other drivers. So a halogen projector is much better than an HID in a reflector. Putting an HID bulb in a projector doesn't throw as much of the light where not wanted so not as bad as putting one in a regular reflector.

WhiteBird00

Because the H13 is a dual filament bulb. Projector lamps change between low beam and high beam by moving a shield plate within the lamp rather than by changing the light source position with a second filament.