2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Surprise, surprise... no spare

Got a compressor where the spare goes, what's up with that. Is this on track pak's only, or all 2010's?
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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thats track pack only
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Yup you basically answered your own question.
2010 track packs have the Tire inflation kit.
Non tp's have a spare.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Spares will not fit over the rotors... same problem with the GT500s. I don't like it either, but what are you going to do? BTW, the inflator kits sucks... if you use it, and if it works... several have reported that it doesn't, then the TMS sensor have to be replaced. Best thing to do is call roadside assistance and have it towed, or buy another wheel/tire, and purchase a OEM jack kit.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Will the "spare" fit on a track pack rear? If so, and you get a flat front tire, use the spare to replace a rear tire which can then go on the front replacing the flat.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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That sounds good but what if the front rotor is the same as the rear too big to get the spare on. well then why wouldnt they fab a rim to work if the inflation kit sucks the big one ? you think it would be cheaper than all the tow bills etc or maybe they bank on not too many of those ?
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Another reason I opted out of the brembo package (gotta fix my sig). I want this car to be as fun and worry-free to drive as possible. If I get a flat, I don't want to have to go through the whole process of getting the TPMS replaced, etc etc. Just change the tire, and keep going on my merry way.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Guys. Put a **** donut in the rear and carry two scissor jacks. If you get a flat in one of the front tires, transfer a rear to the front and put the donut on the rear.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Guys. Put a **** donut in the rear and carry two scissor jacks. If you get a flat in one of the front tires, transfer a rear to the front and put the donut on the rear.
It's not that easy... You will have to first find a "**** donut" that is the same height of the wheel that it is replacing or you'll rip the gears out. A guy over at fordgt500.com just spent $270.00 on a modified donut and $155.00 for an OEM jack kit (jack, wrench, bracket, etc). Sure, you can probably pick up a jack kit, or two as you suggest, on ebay or at a junk yard, but you will NOT find a properly sized donut. Additionally, not all scissor jacks will work either.

You will have to build one from a donut rim and a odd size donut tire to obtain the proper circumference. This issue has been beat to death on other forums. There is no simple solution. As a mentioned, it’ll actually be cheaper to purchase one OEM jack kit and fifth wheel/tire.

Note: I’m referring to the GT500... I’m not sure of the size of the wheels/tires available with the track pack... Maybe donuts are readily available. Just food for thought. I’d hate for someone to install a donut, and then later a new rear end. Nonetheless, a donut will NOT fit the rotors on the front.

A few problems with the inflator kits: 1) It will only work with a small leak, which a can a Fix-A-Flat will be just as good, 2) There are already a few 2010 GT500 owners who have had flats and the inflator formula was already dried up deemed unless, and 3) As previously mentioned, you’ll have to replace the TMS sensor if any substance is injected into the tire.

Possible solution: Ford, or some other manufacture, designs a lightweight donut that fits the rotors and is equivalent to the size of OEM wheels/tires... but I’m not holding my breath.

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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cusp
Will the "spare" fit on a track pack rear? If so, and you get a flat front tire, use the spare to replace a rear tire which can then go on the front replacing the flat.
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Guys. Put a **** donut in the rear and carry two scissor jacks. If you get a flat in one of the front tires, transfer a rear to the front and put the donut on the rear.
While it might sound like a good idea to just move a rear tire to the front and put the donut on the rear, I would think that it could wreek havoc with the rear end gear as the tires would be differant sizes. A limited slip was not intended to slip continiously. Thats probably why they don't supply a donut.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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The space saver spare not being the same height as the original tire is not a major problem so long as it is used as intended, as a TEMPORARY tire that is not used at normal highway speed and for no longer than it takes to get to a place to get a new original size tire or the original repaired. In that short distance and low speed, the clutches in the differential will survive. It would only be a problem if you were to leave the spare on for an extended period of time or use it at higher speed.

I'm sure that cost and weight are a couple of factors in why Ford doesn't include a spare tire in these brembo cars.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
The space saver spare not being the same height as the original tire is not a major problem so long as it is used as intended, as a TEMPORARY tire that is not used at normal highway speed and for no longer than it takes to get to a place to get a new original size tire or the original repaired. In that short distance and low speed, the clutches in the differential will survive. It would only be a problem if you were to leave the spare on for an extended period of time or use it at higher speed.

I'm sure that cost and weight are a couple of factors in why Ford doesn't include a spare tire in these brembo cars.
Does the Camaro has the same "tire mobility kit" ?
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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It's called "track pack".
Not... "daily driver track pack".
The whole point of forgoing a spare is to save on weight and improve balance.
Having a spare negates both of these.

Sooooo I don't see what the big deal is.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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How much balance would one need just driving around the town
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GottaHaveIt
How much balance would one need just driving around the town
Well, how much gearing would one need just driving around the town?
It's all relative.

But it's part of the 'track pack' package. That's the whole point of it. If you go to a track and go through a course rareeeeeeeely does one ever have a spare in the back. Like I said, it's not daily driver track pack...
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Doughnut wheels must not be all that hard to find or be to expensive. I saw a beater driving around with one on each of its 4 corners!!! I am thinking to myself wondering if the junk yards sell them for cheap.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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I'm starting to think its a 'limited slip rear end thing'. My V-6 doesn't come with a spare tire. 18 inch wheels with standard brakes. Comes with a 'Tire Inflation Kit'. Doesn't even offer a spare at extra cost.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by David Young
I'm starting to think its a 'limited slip rear end thing'. My V-6 doesn't come with a spare tire. 18 inch wheels with standard brakes. Comes with a 'Tire Inflation Kit'. Doesn't even offer a spare at extra cost.
18's on GT's 2006 - 2009 had a donut. Don't know about 10's.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
18's on GT's 2006 - 2009 had a donut. Don't know about 10's.
Then it must be a cost and weight saving thing.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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My track pack I car has a spare, and the same wheels with diferent tires than the track pack II cars have now so I know they do fit, it must be a weight or cost cutting thing.
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