jarradasay

Also, modern turbos spool very quickly. Especially if we are talking only 5-10 psi. My previous Eagle talon TSi AWD (Garrett T25 [very small] Turbo) spooled to 1 Bar (14.7 psi) by 2800 rpm, that meant full torque at 2800 rpm and it held it there to nearly 5500 before dropping off. To me 2800 is definitely still low end torque. I don't know what the sterotype is based on but it is definietly wrong. My guess is that it is based on racers that us T66 or larger turbos with housings and impellers that are as big as your head, but a simple small T25 will have no problem boost 5-10 psi in the early 2000 rpm range and hit nearly 15 psi (if for choses to boost that high) before 3000 rpm. Many modded supras have been converted from twin sequential turbos to one T66, thus the stigma of
"doggy" off the line, but the stock sequentials handled that real well with the first turbo spooling low end and the second picking up for high end, it was definitely not "doggy".

svopaul

Those who claim they are "V8 guys" and wouldn't like a turbocharged 4 cylinder have never driven an SVO...."I" am a V8 guy too....but I also own a couple SVO's and each car does something different for me....but I've had more people ask about the "V8" in my SVO when they heard it idle than I can remember and nearly 400RWHP and 29mpg(with your foot out of it of course) is nothing to blow off I can assure you .

The SVO is a far better balanced car than ANY other Fox Mustang out there...with some modifications it just can't be beat. Compared to the new GT500(I've driven both on track) the SVO feels like a nimble go cart while the GT500 felt heavy and "fluffy" to me...the GT500 took everything I threw at it but it just feels heavy and after getting out of it and back into my SVO, the SVO felt even more nimble and better handling....of course there was probably at least a 1500lb difference between the two cars.

If Ford builds an SVO then I may just be a player for one if they do it right....and it's time is here...you CAN make power out of forced induction smaller displacement engines....you can't duplicate Big Block torque but the V8 Mustang doesn't have a big block anymore anyway compared to the past.

Ford in Australia is already producing and selling V6 Turbos in their FPV family...so the technology for the V6 is already there and proven...they just need to bring it over here and then improve on it a little more.

WaltM

This I can vouch for . Whatever Ford does, I hope they keep the "spirit" of the original. If they do, it will be a fine car.

Knight

Paul do you have any videos of your SVO? I'd love to hear how they sound.

Pwny

I will be with you too Paul. I love the SVO, and will undoubtedly buy one too provided it isn't a muck up.

MSP

Bout time somebody stepped up and told the truth about the SVO! LOL!
I like the part about 400RWHP and 29mpg! Thats called taking care of business! Nice job SVOPaul!
Yeah be nice if Ford would hold a dinner party and tell everyone that the new SVO is in the works!

Got any pics of the 400RWHP SVO you wouldn't mind posting for us?

svopaul

I wish I had a video of the exhaust but I never did that....I recently changed the exhaust from the MAC Flowpaths on my teal car to a set of Powertones which I like much better...quieter and better sound IMO. Currently I have the turbo off my teal SVO for an upgrade(bigger) but once I get the turbo back and on I'll take a video of the car.

The red/yellow SVO made 386RWHP on a Dynojet chassis dyno....both cars have nearly identical engine combos with the difference being the turbochargers....the race car currently uses a FAST engine managment system while the teal car currently has the stock PE computer but I have an SDS stand alone engine management system for it if I decide to go that route. The injectors in the red car are a bit big I think so I am going to address that in the future. The drivetrain in my teal car was in another SVO which was the white comp prep on the cover of the Nov. '99 MM&FF and at that time it was a 2.3 and not the 2.5 it is today and with a 75 shot went 11.70 at 116mph.....it no longer uses the NOS but is now a stroker and the turbo is FAR better than what was on it at that time. Power in the teal car is an educated guess at the moment based on the numbers the red car put down and the changes I am making. Both cars aside from the race trim have nearly identical setups except the red car has 4.30 gears(which is too much really) and the teal car runs 4.10 gears.

The teal car also gets that great gas mileage with 4.10 gears and a V8 T5 tranny.

The race car has a single exhaust with a Borla muffler and as such does not have the same V8 tone that the teal car has with the duals but it still sounds good. At some point I'll dig that one out of the showroom and get a video of the exhaust note on that one too.

Pwny

Awesome cars Paul!

You said you get 29 mpg in them? That's awesome.

The SVO might just be that magic bullet us Mustang fanatics are looking for.

svopaul

Thanks.....I got 29mpg on a trip to Florida in the teal one last time I had it on a road trip....the red one really isn't a street car and I have never measured mpg in it.

Brewman

There is just one problem, the Cobalt is no a bad looking car where the Focus is BUTT ugly. A friend of mine has a G6 GT and I took it for a drive. That thing is NICE. Fit a finnish is very good, the interior feel is very HQ, and it has good Performance. Pontiac devision is getting it together FoMoCo needs to make a hot looking focus that feels very HQ.

Brewman

Also, I am as non-RICER as many of you but If ford made a car that could compete with a WRX or an EVO in handling and performance but had Muscle car feel and styling they would really have something to stand up in the currant market. SVT was a affordable upgrade version of FORD, now it is more of a rich mans only club.
I would love to see a FUSION SVT and a replacement for the ZX3 SVT.

quikstang2

I agree, the Focus is horrendous. The Cobalt with the two circle tail lights isn't bad looking, but it would look better with the Pontiac nose.

If they made the Focus worth looking at... you can convert it to RWD, so why not AWD? The rally cars are and I believe the Volvo version of it has the option.

svopaul

Ford did this WAY back in 1985 but in Europe with the Escort RS200....an unbelievable car.....The only one I have seen in person is in Las Vegas in one of the Casinos that has a car museum(can't remember the name off hand). If Ford had only kept up with this and evolved it through today I can't imagine what kind of beast we would have available!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIA...HAT/30514.html

Knight

Group B race cars

MSP

Very nice!! Thanks for posting the pics SVOPaul!! I love the blue one, its perfect! Nice wheels too!

So the red&yellow one is strictly your race track car?

WaltM

Please do. My car came w/Supertrapps. While they sound ok, I would really like to upgrade.

m05fastbackGT

Thanks for the great heads up, Moose

GottaHaveIt

Sync ? : drool:

WaltM

My guess? Probably not; and you won't have cup holders either. The SVO was a purpose built automobile. Outside of A/C and an AM/FM cassette, there is nothing in the car that can be a distraction while driving.

While I'm impressed with the SVO drag cars, The car was designed to run against Porsche in trans-am style racing. I've read accounts that a Porsche team's drivers, were ordered to "take them out", because they (the SVO) were winning.

svopaul

Thanks, Yes...while the red one can be driven on the street(and I have ) it has Kumho Race tires on it so it's not a purpose built street car like the teal one is. The red one also has no A/C and no radio.