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Its called "a sense of entitlement". Just like when I was in the car business and people would drive up in their taurus and proceed to tell me they HAD to have 4WD.
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Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
(Post 5770979)
I'm on the fence about EPAS. Sure, it contributes to fuel economy, but a lot of the reviews of vehicles equipped with it have criticized the systems for a lack of feel. It'll be interesting to see how Ford has addressed that.
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Originally Posted by 48prerunner
(Post 5771399)
Wow sounds cool and just when i planed on keeping the 2008 forever lol well i still have the 65 and 67 whats one more mustang :nice:
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That was quick.. only took about 30 years for Ford to offer a V6 that's not a joke. Well done.
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Originally Posted by Dig-It Racing
(Post 5771353)
+1!
December 2nd for the GT, right? How about the GT500? Any idea when we're supposed to hear anything about that? |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 5771231)
Cause Ford would NEVER underate an engine....
Just sayin. And really if not, you're gonna miss 10hp? I guarentee you wouldn't even notice if you had it or didn't up top. Buy an exhaust and stop eating Dunkin's.... :) |
Since the Mustang V6 is rated at 305hp...just one more (although still more hp) than the base Camaro, I would love to see the 5.0 come out with 427hp just to add insult to injury!
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Well to be honest, Ford's a dollar short and a day late with the 305 hp V6. GM and Nissan beat Ford to the punch with 300+ hp N/A V6's years ago. Ford took their time getting the 3.5/3.7 out to more of its cars. Ford's just doing a decent job with the marketing/PR to make people believe this 305 hp V6 is revolutionary. It also shows how pitifully underpowered the modular V8 engines are. My 4.6L 2V V8 made only 285 ft-lb of torque at 3500-4000 RPM from the factory, yet this N/A 3.7L V6 makes 280 ft-lb of torque.
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Originally Posted by Clino
(Post 5771481)
Since the Mustang V6 is rated at 305hp...just one more (although still more hp) than the base Camaro, I would love to see the 5.0 come out with 427hp just to add insult to injury!
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Originally Posted by metroplex
(Post 5771490)
The Ford 6.2L Boss V8 will make only 411 hp. It's unlikely Ford will make the 5.0L Coyote produce more power than a 6.2L truck engine. I'm guessing 340-360 hp is the target for the production Coyote.
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Originally Posted by metroplex
(Post 5771490)
The Ford 6.2L Boss V8 will make only 411 hp. It's unlikely Ford will make the 5.0L Coyote produce more power than a 6.2L truck engine. I'm guessing 340-360 hp is the target for the production Coyote.
:rofl2: Hey Boomer, just a thought....Isn't the new V6 Mustang rated on 87 octane like pretty much every other mainstream Ford offering? And people love quoting numbers, but really its WHERE the power comes in, and how long it goes before it starts running out of steam. |
Originally Posted by metroplex
(Post 5771490)
The Ford 6.2L Boss V8 will make only 411 hp. It's unlikely Ford will make the 5.0L Coyote produce more power than a 6.2L truck engine. I'm guessing 340-360 hp is the target for the production Coyote.
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The 6.2L is setup and cammed for torque, not high revving HP. It probably murders the 5.0 in torque production.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 5771499)
yeah..maybe @ 3000rpm or something....
:rofl2: Pretty sure it is 87. And people love quoting numbers, but really its WHERE the power comes in, and how long it goes before it starts running out of steam. |
It was a joke...
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[quote=eci;5771512]360HP @ 3000 RPM = 630 Torque. Yeah, right.[/quote
Can't we just skip Dec. 1st and get to the man's stuff with the GT. Marketing, marketing....let's get to the point Ford, enough useless bla,bla,bla threads going on on Autoblog. What a bunch of loosers, for the most part. May even think selling my beloved '69 to get a 400HP car. |
Where should we get the news on the GT first ? Autoblogor or else ?
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No way Ford can come up with a 360HP GT car, it ain't gonna happen and sell. Too much is at stake here, they'll loose lot's of sale if that is the case. Let's hope they heard us loud and clear for once. We need the goods now.
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Just playing around with some numbers.
Past GTs have typically had about 43% more HP than the V6s: 1994-1998 V6 = 150HP 1994-1998 GT = 215HP 150HP + 43% = 214.5 HP 1999-2004 V6 = 190HP 1999-2004 GT = 260HP 190HP + 43% = 271HP 2005-2009 V6 = 210HP 2005-2009 GT = 300HP 210HP + 43% = 300HP so if we follow that for the new car: 2011 V6 305HP + 43% = 436HP for the 5.0 Just playing with some numbers. Certainly makes the idea of a 360HP 5.0 (which would only be 18% higher than the V6) seem pretty far-fetched. I also realize that peak HP is just a small part of what makes a car fast/fun to drive, but at the same time it is crucial from a marketing perspective. |
Originally Posted by jedikd
(Post 5771524)
Just playing around with some numbers.
Past GTs have typically had about 43% more HP than the V6s: 1994-1998 V6 = 150HP 1994-1998 GT = 215HP 150HP + 43% = 214.5 HP 1999-2004 V6 = 190HP 1999-2004 GT = 260HP 190HP + 43% = 271HP 2005-2009 V6 = 210HP 2005-2009 GT = 300HP 210HP + 43% = 300HP so if we follow that for the new car: 2011 V6 305HP + 43% = 436HP for the 5.0 Just playing with some numbers. Certainly makes the idea of a 360HP 5.0 (which would only be 18% higher than the V6) seem pretty far-fetched. I also realize that peak HP is just a small part of what makes a car fast/fun to drive, but at the same time it is crucial from a marketing perspective. |
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