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Need Advice: Most Painless Jump from '11 to '12 GT

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Its not over 8% in all counties in CA.... the state takes 6.25% then the county tacks on their tax too, I think up in the central valley where I'm getting mine its 7.5 or 7.75%... something like that
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Here in South Carolina ALL cars are capped with a $300 sales tax on vehicle purchases. You have to be a resident though. It is 5 or 6% but when it reaches $300, it is capped.
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Sales guy called me this morning. I told him what I wanted. Naturally he hadn't heard of the Sonic Blue late availability but he's up to speed now. I told him what I wanted (401A/Comfort/EP/Auto), and he said he'd work it up and call me back. He said having my '11 parked until then was a plus in that I wouldn't be piling miles onto it.

I worked it up on Ford's web site Build & Price, and it looks to be about $38,500. I am guessing that after X-Plan it'll be closer to $35K. If I can get $33K or $34K for my car, then I'm only looking at a $2K or so difference.

Wild card: My wife is suddenly NOT behind this plan. She wants me to get a car I "can use" but doesn't think a GT is a good idea. She's probably right. I bet she wants me to get that 2011 Honda Fit we drove last week. It was a great little car with perfect steering and brakes and paddle shifters, that's for sure. But it's not a Mustang.
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Tell she can drive one when the van croaks. You need your stang. It's like a little vacation everyday you drive. I doubt you'd get more than 30-31 for your car though. If you do, awesome.

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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
Wild card: My wife is suddenly NOT behind this plan... But it's not a Mustang.
Ugh. You can't waiver here. You WON'T be happy if you get something else.
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
Wild card: My wife is suddenly NOT behind this plan. She wants me to get a car I "can use" but doesn't think a GT is a good idea. She's probably right. I bet she wants me to get that 2011 Honda Fit we drove last week. It was a great little car with perfect steering and brakes and paddle shifters, that's for sure. But it's not a Mustang.
Eric,
Try to work it out with the wife somehow. Sure, you need her support, but mention how important a Mustang is to you. You are going to get better from a medical standpoint soon, so towards the end of the year the Honda FIT may not feel right to you. Do what you must, but I think a Mustang is the only car that you may really want!

Heres another idea.....Get a tricked out V-6 if you want in Sonic Blue and then the $$$$ issues will not be that severe and then your wife may be more accepting of the move when you talk about 31 MPG and less $$$$. Plus, you will still have an awesome Mustang
Good Luck and Heal Up Fast!
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Originally Posted by eliyarbrough

On losing your vert, I drove my 95 vert from 8/2/03 to 10/3/10, top back as long as no form of precip. In winter, top back just wore a light jacket. Since buying my Coupe, I don't miss that @ all!! That's me, though!
Get the glass roof and enjoy a psudo vert in the winter.
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Originally Posted by Phil_R
Eric,
Heres another idea.....Get a tricked out V-6 if you want in Sonic Blue and then the $$$$ issues will not be that severe and then your wife may be more accepting of the move when you talk about 31 MPG and less $$$$. Plus, you will still have an awesome Mustang
Good Luck and Heal Up Fast!
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Phil - You are absolutely right, & I would pursue that tactic except for one thing: the sound of the V8 with GT500 mufflers upon start-up. That "Bark" just never gets old. To me it's the old-school sound as much as anything else that stirs my soul. I just hate the 21 mpg. 30+ mpg in average commuting would be much better.

I think she'd be OK if I found a '10 coupe with the 5AT, but two problems with that are: no sonic blue, and how can you switch to the 4.6 once you've had the 5.0? The 4.6 is a great package and has a great sound tho. And I simply cannot warm up completely to the 05-09 interior.

Arrrgh, this is so irritating. Wish I had a suitable clutch leg. I have a Barton shifter bracket on the shelf that I purchased back when I thought I'd get over this foot thing quickly...
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Well, you're trading cars, so go ahead and trade the wife in on a newer model with more features as well.
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
how can you switch to the 4.6 once you've had the 5.0? The 4.6 is a great package and has a great sound tho. And I simply cannot warm up completely to the 05-09 interior.
I'm with you on both points. I think the 4.6 conversion would be easier than switching to the 05-09 interior. It was great before the '10+ interior but after seeing the new interior it knocked an 05-09 off the radar.
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
Well, you're trading cars, so go ahead and trade the wife in on a newer model with more features as well.
I appreciate the notion, but that will never happen. My wife is my everything. And she will let me do this if I really want to. But she is much wiser than I am, so I always want to heed her counsel.

Dealer got back to me with this for my proposed 2012:
MSRP = $38,520
x-plan = $36,023.91

LOL, I wonder if they'd take 36,023.90?

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Originally Posted by Double-EDad

Dealer got back to me with this for my proposed 2010:
MSRP = $38,520
x-plan = $36,023.91

LOL, I wonder if they'd take 36,023.90?
For a 2010?!?!?! Are they on dope? 2010's were selling for $7-8000 below msrp last summer. But I guess they just figured it with x-plan thinking you'd be dumb enough not to know.
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Originally Posted by FCMalie
Its not over 8% in all counties in CA.... the state takes 6.25% then the county tacks on their tax too, I think up in the central valley where I'm getting mine its 7.5 or 7.75%... something like that
You are taxed on where you reside, not where you buy it.
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
For a 2010?!?!?! Are they on dope? 2010's were selling for $7-8000 below msrp last summer. But I guess they just figured it with x-plan thinking you'd be dumb enough not to know.
Pretty sure he meant 2012 for the Sonic Blue, would make more sense at least.
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
For a 2010?!?!?! Are they on dope? 2010's were selling for $7-8000 below msrp last summer. But I guess they just figured it with x-plan thinking you'd be dumb enough not to know.

Ooops yeah sorry, I meant 2012. Where DOES the time go?!?
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
Sales guy called me this morning. I told him what I wanted. Naturally he hadn't heard of the Sonic Blue late availability but he's up to speed now. I told him what I wanted (401A/Comfort/EP/Auto), and he said he'd work it up and call me back. He said having my '11 parked until then was a plus in that I wouldn't be piling miles onto it.

I worked it up on Ford's web site Build & Price, and it looks to be about $38,500. I am guessing that after X-Plan it'll be closer to $35K. If I can get $33K or $34K for my car, then I'm only looking at a $2K or so difference.

Wild card: My wife is suddenly NOT behind this plan. She wants me to get a car I "can use" but doesn't think a GT is a good idea. She's probably right. I bet she wants me to get that 2011 Honda Fit we drove last week. It was a great little car with perfect steering and brakes and paddle shifters, that's for sure. But it's not a Mustang.

be closer to 36k. The car I have on order is 38,600 msrp and x-plan is right at 36k I'd say your looking at your car and 5k to trade minimum. You have to factor in that the dealer has to be able to list the used car at a price thats attractive in the used market. Don't forget there are good rebates on 2011 mustangs (if you can find one) that automatically drive down the value of your trade. If your vert was 41k then x- plan was probaly right around 37,500 then you subtract rebates and your right at 35 or so on a brand new one so now you can see that 34k isn't realistic for trade in value. Not trying to be a downer just trying to be realistic.
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
I appreciate the notion, but that will never happen. My wife is my everything. And she will let me do this if I really want to. But she is much wiser than I am, so I always want to heed her counsel.

Dealer got back to me with this for my proposed 2012:
MSRP = $38,520
x-plan = $36,023.91

LOL, I wonder if they'd take 36,023.90?

Doh!! I should of read the whole thread before I replied above lol..
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Originally Posted by going for broke
be closer to 36k. The car I have on order is 38,600 msrp and x-plan is right at 36k I'd say your looking at your car and 5k to trade minimum. You have to factor in that the dealer has to be able to list the used car at a price thats attractive in the used market. Don't forget there are good rebates on 2011 mustangs (if you can find one) that automatically drive down the value of your trade. If your vert was 41k then x- plan was probaly right around 37,500 then you subtract rebates and your right at 35 or so on a brand new one so now you can see that 34k isn't realistic for trade in value. Not trying to be a downer just trying to be realistic.
I understand your point and don't disagree, but I must point out the following Kelly Blue Book Trade-In values for a 2011 GT 'vert with 8000 miles and 19" wheels:
BLUE BOOK® TRADE-IN VALUE


Close Trade-In Value

Kelley Blue Book Trade-In Value is the amount consumers can expect to receive from a dealer for a trade-in vehicle, assuming an accurate appraisal of the vehicle's condition, mileage and features. This value will likely be less than the Private Party Value because the reselling dealer incurs the cost of safety inspections, reconditioning and other costs of doing business.





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Condition ValueExcellent
$34,000
Good
$32,300
Fair
$29,200

The "Private Party" are about $1500 higher.

All those handsome rebates are also available to me in my purchase so I see those as a net wash.

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