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Old 7/15/17, 10:00 PM   #18501
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Looking good Gabe.. The restaurant and store you and your wife went to must had been a really special place to travel 250 miles for lunch and shopping lol.
Thanks Rocky.
It was mostly a trip trying to get my Oxygen sensors to go "ready" for state inspection, and that didn't happen.
While we were in Freetown, ME though, we decided to have lunch there and then did a bit of shopping since we didn't want to just eat and fly back.
So, a nice day trip with the wife
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Old 7/16/17, 05:50 AM   #18502
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I took Ruby to the races yesterday and stumbled upon a pretty cool photo op.

The great thing about Red Candy is it looks great in the sun, even when it isn't super clean and waxed.
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I took Ruby to the races yesterday and stumbled upon a pretty cool photo op.

The great thing about Red Candy is it looks great in the sun, even when it isn't super clean and waxed.
nicely done, the background is pretty impressive
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I took Ruby to the races yesterday and stumbled upon a pretty cool photo op.
The great thing about Red Candy is it looks great in the sun, even when it isn't super clean and waxed.
Great photo!
Nice looking car. I love that Ruby Red color.
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Thanks Rocky.
It was mostly a trip trying to get my Oxygen sensors to go "ready" for state inspection, and that didn't happen.
While we were in Freetown, ME though, we decided to have lunch there and then did a bit of shopping since we didn't want to just eat and fly back.
So, a nice day trip with the wife
Glad you and the wife had a very enjoyable trip Gabe.. However I don't quite understand how the oxygen sensors can still not be ready after putting 250 miles on your car.. It's usually after either an hour drive cycle or 60 miles..

I would narrow it down to either something being wrong with the oxygen sensors or perhaps something is wrong in the tune

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The great thing about Red Candy is it looks great in the sun, even when it isn't super clean and waxed.
Nice pics and perfect photo op with the racetrack in the background.. Great job
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Rocky, it's worse than that, I have over 2,000 miles of driving this car over the last 2.5 months trying to get it to go inspection-ready, I've been trying different tune revisions from my tuner, I still can't get the O2s to go ready.

I've replaced the rear oxygen sensors, still nothing.

I even tried a slightly bigger pulley for a couple weeks, and nothing.

This morning I put the small 3.125" pulley back on and took it out for a spirited drive, within 10 minutes the catalyst went ready!!!

So here's hoping that the next cruise I take will do something good for the O2s.
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Then I'm really stumped Gabe, as I don't understand how the pulley size would have anything to do with the oxygen sensors being ready or not ready.. IMHO their not even related to one another to my knowledge.. From what you've described, we know that it's definitely not the oxygen sensors, otherwise they wouldn't show ready when reinstalling the smaller 3.125" pulley back on..

Therefore I still believe there's something just not set right in the tune revisions.. If I were you, I would recommend seeking a second opinion from another tuning vendor just for your own piece of mind
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Old 7/16/17, 12:16 PM   #18508
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I sent e-mails out to VMP and Lund yesterday wondering if they might be able to guarantee me a tune that will fix my issues.
We'll see what they say.
I really can't afford to spend countless hundreds of dollars on tunes, just hoping they'd work.
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I sent e-mails out to VMP and Lund yesterday wondering if they might be able to guarantee me a tune that will fix my issues.
We'll see what they say.
I really can't afford to spend countless hundreds of dollars on tunes, just hoping they'd work.
You're definitely on the right track Gabe, as VMP and Lund should definitely find a solution for you that will fix your oxygen sensor issues.. I would also recommend JDM engineering and possibly Brenspeed as well although they're specialty are the older 4.6L 3v 05-10 Mustangs..
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Rocky, it's worse than that, I have over 2,000 miles of driving this car over the last 2.5 months trying to get it to go inspection-ready, I've been trying different tune revisions from my tuner, I still can't get the O2s to go ready.
I've replaced the rear oxygen sensors, still nothing.
I even tried a slightly bigger pulley for a couple weeks, and nothing.
This morning I put the small 3.125" pulley back on and took it out for a spirited drive, within 10 minutes the catalyst went ready!!!
So here's hoping that the next cruise I take will do something good for the O2s.
That's a good sign Gabe! Hopefully that works for you bro.
Good luck!
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Old 7/16/17, 05:51 PM   #18511
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You're definitely on the right track Gabe, as VMP and Lund should definitely find a solution for you that will fix your oxygen sensor issues.. I would also recommend JDM engineering and possibly Brenspeed as well although they're specialty are the older 4.6L 3v 05-10 Mustangs..
I originally started with JDM but they won't tune me anymore with my current 3.125" pulley unless I sign a paper that they're not responsible for what might happen, and I think that's BS, I won't do that.

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That's a good sign Gabe! Hopefully that works for you bro.
Good luck!
Thanks Tony, hope so.
We have it out to dinner tonight, will keep driving it and see what happens.
If anything, I'm enjoying having all my power back
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I originally started with JDM but they won't tune me anymore with my current 3.125" pulley unless I sign a paper that they're not responsible for what might happen, and I think that's BS, I won't do that.
You're absolutely right Gabe, as that is indeed a crock of B.S.. If the folks over at JDM are such Ford tuning specialists and so confident in their tuning abilities, not only shouldn't they require you to sign a release from, but should also provide you with a tune that's going to work properly by resolving the oxygen sensor issues that you've been going through.. Maybe consider Brenspeed in addition to VMP and Lund



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Thanks Tony, hope so.
We have it out to dinner tonight, will keep driving it and see what happens.
If anything, I'm enjoying having all my power back

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I originally started with JDM but they won't tune me anymore with my current 3.125" pulley unless I sign a paper that they're not responsible for what might happen, and I think that's BS, I won't do that.



Thanks Tony, hope so.
We have it out to dinner tonight, will keep driving it and see what happens.
If anything, I'm enjoying having all my power back
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You're absolutely right Gabe, as that is indeed a crock of B.S.. If the folks over at JDM are such Ford tuning specialists and so confident in their tuning abilities, not only shouldn't they require you to sign a release from, but should also provide you with a tune that's going to work properly by resolving the oxygen sensor issues that you've been going through.. Maybe consider Brenspeed in addition to VMP and Lund
whoa whoa whoa... Gabe, I think we talked offline about this in the past, and I talked to Jr before about this (when he and Nick did my tune, etc.). If I recall, this all started because they were comfortable providing a tune within their limits - that is, suited for "enough" power, without the use of a BAP. I recall they/you saying you wanted more power, so you wanted to go with a BAP (I assume you did?), and that's where I believe you chose to go with another tune. Is that correct? Am just asking...

I don't mean any disrespect at all - but - in a way, I see where JDM is coming from. Your car has evolved a lot since they first worked on it, with additions and changes beyond what they were "comfortable" doing. I can't blame them for not wanting to write a tune for your car, as it sits, because they don't like writing tunes for set ups they don't recommend. That's how I understood the situation, and from them.

I have always had a great relationship and experience from JDM... provided, I stay within the limits of their recommendations. That's what I've done, and my tune/setup has been bulletproof for the last few years. 600whp is enough for me...

In that vain, I do hope you figure out the issue with your setup, with or without JDM. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents, that I think I know where they are coming from.
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Ok - bad pic alert! I have some iPhone pics I took this weekend. I went to the farmer's market downtown with the wifey and kids. There was a car show nearby, so I drove Marilyn, while the wife drove Portia with the kiddos. Yes, your eyes are not deceiving you... that is my wife's Prius behind me. A mustang and prius, the ultimate polar opposites

But at least they're completely buffed and swirl free - 6 and 5 years old respectively.



Then I did a Target errand... and I wanted to show you guys where I parked.



If you squint enough, or use a binocular, this is what she looks like up close!!!



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whoa whoa whoa... Gabe, I think we talked offline about this in the past, and I talked to Jr before about this (when he and Nick did my tune, etc.). If I recall, this all started because they were comfortable providing a tune within their limits - that is, suited for "enough" power, without the use of a BAP. I recall they/you saying you wanted more power, so you wanted to go with a BAP (I assume you did?), and that's where I believe you chose to go with another tune. Is that correct? Am just asking...

I don't mean any disrespect at all - but - in a way, I see where JDM is coming from. Your car has evolved a lot since they first worked on it, with additions and changes beyond what they were "comfortable" doing. I can't blame them for not wanting to write a tune for your car, as it sits, because they don't like writing tunes for set ups they don't recommend. That's how I understood the situation, and from them.

I have always had a great relationship and experience from JDM... provided, I stay within the limits of their recommendations. That's what I've done, and my tune/setup has been bulletproof for the last few years. 600whp is enough for me...

In that vain, I do hope you figure out the issue with your setup, with or without JDM. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents, that I think I know where they are coming from.
Burton ! this has nothing to do with Gabe's past tuning experiences with JDM nor anything to do with a BAP, as he's not asking for any more power or anything beyond the limits of JDM's recommendations.. All Gabe wants is a tune that will pass emissions with his current setup and nothing more..
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whoa whoa whoa... Gabe, I think we talked offline about this in the past, and I talked to Jr before about this (when he and Nick did my tune, etc.). If I recall, this all started because they were comfortable providing a tune within their limits - that is, suited for "enough" power, without the use of a BAP. I recall they/you saying you wanted more power, so you wanted to go with a BAP (I assume you did?), and that's where I believe you chose to go with another tune. Is that correct? Am just asking...

I don't mean any disrespect at all - but - in a way, I see where JDM is coming from. Your car has evolved a lot since they first worked on it, with additions and changes beyond what they were "comfortable" doing. I can't blame them for not wanting to write a tune for your car, as it sits, because they don't like writing tunes for set ups they don't recommend. That's how I understood the situation, and from them.

I have always had a great relationship and experience from JDM... provided, I stay within the limits of their recommendations. That's what I've done, and my tune/setup has been bulletproof for the last few years. 600whp is enough for me...

In that vain, I do hope you figure out the issue with your setup, with or without JDM. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents, that I think I know where they are coming from.
Last tune JDM sent me was for the twin-60 throttle body that came with the Whipple kit, the 3.25" pulley, and no BAP.
When I asked them for a tune for the twin-65mm throttle body cuz I wanted a bit more power, they said they wouldn't do it unless I signed a form saying I wouldn't hold them responsible for what might go wrong.

At the time I was dyno-ing at 591 rwhp.
Since then I added a higher-flowing H-pipe and lost some boost, the car was putting down 540-545 rwhp.

I went ahead and got the bigger twin-65 throttle body, the BAP, and the smaller 3.125" pulley and got a tune from a local shop, that put me at about 575 rwhp.
I went to the tune I'm running now from the premier local Mustang tuner and it put me at 608 rwhp, all numbers on the same dyno.

JDM got me running when the local shop couldn't do it, but now they know Coyotes pretty good and overall I'm very happy with their tune.

Yes, I have this issue with the O2 sensors, but we'll get it figured out.
One thing I have yet to do is the 40mph drive for 4-5 minutes, at a constant 40mph, right after starting up the car. hard to do when I live 4-5 minutes from a 40+ mph road.

And Burton, just cuz they send you revisions, it doesn't mean that each revision adds power. You haven't really dyno'd the car, you assume 600 rwhp, but I'd love to know what your car actually puts down, on a Dynojet dyno. You might be surprised yourself.
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Looking good. Great photo.
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