8 hours with the car and pulled over
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
I'm not so old, but feel the same way. So much ignorant noise these days.
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I always wondered why people posting new mustang pictures on their driveway had dealer advertisements instead of license plates,(comes the mail, weird) in Canada u get them before u leave the dealership
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I have no problem when cops do their job. I have a huge problem when people, or other officers, try to justify a cop who is clearly not doing their job and violating the law. I have no problem with a pre-textual stop as they are legal, however, if the temporary tag was legally placed pursuant to state law, and there is no other violation, then the driver should not have been harassed.
The worst part is that if any evidence was found of a crime that resulted from that illegal stop, it would not be allowed to be used against the Defendant. Fruit of the poisonous tree. That's the real problem when cops don't follow the law, if any evidence of a crime that we would all find repulsive and disgusting is found, then any competent lawyer would be able to get the evidence suppressed. It really doesn't matter for a drug charge or something that is not a big deal, however, find bloody weapons, or a body and the evidence is suppressed because of an illegal stop, How is that good for anyone in society?
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I understand your point and appreciate the perspective, but we only have one perspective here and it isn't that of the officer. If those plates are used by thieves to disguise stolen cars then the officer has enough to warrant suspicion. There are bad cops, but the reality is that the vast majority are good officers. Every time they stop someone, they risk getting a gun shoved in their face. You may know that you would never do that, but they don't and can't assume that the person in the car is an upstanding individual whom respects the law. Clearly that wasn't an issue here, but that officer wasn't out to ruin someone's day. I would put money on the officer seeing something that warranted the stop.
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Since the registration was in the front window as originally posted, and no temp. plate is issued in that state, is the officer expected to drive around the car to see if it is legally registered? If, and it is an IF....the officer could not see the paper in the front windshield for any reason, it could be a reason for stopping.
Not the first to be stopped for nothing (after it was all over) and not the last either. Try getting stopped and the officer has his gun drawn.....just because of the make and color of the vehicle matches a bar fight suspect......such fun that was.
Not the first to be stopped for nothing (after it was all over) and not the last either. Try getting stopped and the officer has his gun drawn.....just because of the make and color of the vehicle matches a bar fight suspect......such fun that was.
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Originally Posted by LostGeographer
So I was minding my own business, had my mother with me, took her out to diner and was driving her home when I get pulled over by cops from a different town than the one I am in. They bring in a second car while I wait and then finally walk up and notice my registration in the front window. "We were wondering why you had no plates" they say, gee, the license plate holder that all new cars in California have that advertises the dealer till your plates come in the mail wasn't a f'ing give away?
My mother was no help, she was buzzed from margaritas and an ex-cop so she was mouthing off, granted I had done nothing wrong, but f'ing seriously? Less then 72 hours back in the states, and 8 hours with the car and I get pulled over? Cops just irritate me...
My mother was no help, she was buzzed from margaritas and an ex-cop so she was mouthing off, granted I had done nothing wrong, but f'ing seriously? Less then 72 hours back in the states, and 8 hours with the car and I get pulled over? Cops just irritate me...
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The problem in this situation isn't the driver or the cops, it's the procedures in California. Why on earth do they let you drive a new car away on public roads legally without any sort of license plate. I used to live in Connecticut and we received "dealer" temp plates, with a number on it that was good for x amount of days. In California you just have an advertisement for a dealership in the bracket. How does a cop or other driver identify you in a report if needed?
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Originally Posted by jmillz
The problem in this situation isn't the driver or the cops, it's the procedures in California. Why on earth do they let you drive a new car away on public roads legally without any sort of license plate. I used to live in Connecticut and we received "dealer" temp plates, with a number on it that was good for x amount of days. In California you just have an advertisement for a dealership in the bracket. How does a cop or other driver identify you in a report if needed?
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They didn't for me. I only just moved to California so when I got to the dealership a couple weeks ago and saw the dealership's plates on the car I asked when I could get the temp plates. The dealer then informed me that in CA you can legally drive it with the dealership placeholders. I didn't ask about it the registration being taped. If the registration was small it may have been taped on the first day and I just didn't notice, since after that I brought it back to the dealer and had plates put on.
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Yea the registration is taped in the front window, but it is nothing large, definitely not readable from any distance, only at best acknowledge-able.
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They didn't for me. I only just moved to California so when I got to the dealership a couple weeks ago and saw the dealership's plates on the car I asked when I could get the temp plates. The dealer then informed me that in CA you can legally drive it with the dealership placeholders. I didn't ask about it the registration being taped. If the registration was small it may have been taped on the first day and I just didn't notice, since after that I brought it back to the dealer and had plates put on.
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They didn't for me. I only just moved to California so when I got to the dealership a couple weeks ago and saw the dealership's plates on the car I asked when I could get the temp plates. The dealer then informed me that in CA you can legally drive it with the dealership placeholders. I didn't ask about it the registration being taped. If the registration was small it may have been taped on the first day and I just didn't notice, since after that I brought it back to the dealer and had plates put on.
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Ha! You bet, in Cali New Governor Brown, Insert Joke here, said that Cali is $18 Billion in dept. So I would watch out if you live in the Golden State...
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Temp tags are for perps. I've bought quite a few cars and had REAL plates before leaving the dealer. New and used.
Your mom is an "ex" cop?!?! Whatever Ex is, i'm assuming retired?! Then she should know A LOT better then to act like an animal when dealing with the police.
So let me sum this up.....you got stopped, they did their job, your mom acted like a fool and they cut you loose. And cops irritate you?!? Sounds interesting.
I hope when some jerk off steals your car and rides past a cop, that they'll be preoccupied doing something other then their job
Your mom is an "ex" cop?!?! Whatever Ex is, i'm assuming retired?! Then she should know A LOT better then to act like an animal when dealing with the police.
So let me sum this up.....you got stopped, they did their job, your mom acted like a fool and they cut you loose. And cops irritate you?!? Sounds interesting.
I hope when some jerk off steals your car and rides past a cop, that they'll be preoccupied doing something other then their job
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Temp tags are for perps. I've bought quite a few cars and had REAL plates before leaving the dealer. New and used.
Your mom is an "ex" cop?!?! Whatever Ex is, i'm assuming retired?! Then she should know A LOT better then to act like an animal when dealing with the police.
So let me sum this up.....you got stopped, they did their job, your mom acted like a fool and they cut you loose. And cops irritate you?!? Sounds interesting.
I hope when some jerk off steals your car and rides past a cop, that they'll be preoccupied doing something other then their job
Your mom is an "ex" cop?!?! Whatever Ex is, i'm assuming retired?! Then she should know A LOT better then to act like an animal when dealing with the police.
So let me sum this up.....you got stopped, they did their job, your mom acted like a fool and they cut you loose. And cops irritate you?!? Sounds interesting.
I hope when some jerk off steals your car and rides past a cop, that they'll be preoccupied doing something other then their job
Yes my mother is a retired cop, and she got mouthy for good reason, cops don't seem to realize what their jobs are these days. They enjoy harassing people (and I am not simply referring to my situation) rather then actually go do something about crimes. 3 years ago I was in town and in a part of town that is questionable, I had pulled over in to a parking lot to get a text about a party location. There were a bunch of kids (12 and under) running around wild and the cops showed up, refused to step out of their car, shined their lights on the kids and told them to go home... they didn't listen, I wouldn't have either, if you don't have the ***** to do your job, then don't do it. They finally approached us sitting in my car and asked us what we were doing, again without stepping out of their vehicle. I got out and told them we were waiting for directions, they advised me to go two more exits to this Dennys where all the cops hang out as that is safe. They don't even come to the area we were in unless there is a call they said.
The cops were out of line, they weren't doing their job in any way. I found out they had several different agencies in town for an anti-gang task force over the weekend, so one of their first acts is to pull over a brand new car with a 60 year old woman in the passenger seat... very successful campaign I am sure.
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Bad thing happen to good people. and that's what all this boils down to.
Its good that with the forum you have a voice, and there are plenty of different views.
I could tell you some stories about being pulled over by police and sheriffs in California that would raise the hair on your head. I remember I vented to my high school friend that is a PD supervisor in the part of town I live in and he kinda schooled me on things that I didn't realize (whats in an officers mind when he makes a stop).
Did I think it was still wrong, yes... but did I understand.. a little bit more.
hope things wind down and everything works out better in the future
Its good that with the forum you have a voice, and there are plenty of different views.
I could tell you some stories about being pulled over by police and sheriffs in California that would raise the hair on your head. I remember I vented to my high school friend that is a PD supervisor in the part of town I live in and he kinda schooled me on things that I didn't realize (whats in an officers mind when he makes a stop).
Did I think it was still wrong, yes... but did I understand.. a little bit more.
hope things wind down and everything works out better in the future
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There is a chain of command located within the police force starting with the chief and then rolling down through the ranks to the insult to the badge you had to deal with. Maybe complaining to the hierarchy or filing a formal complaint with your local county city, or state law enforcement municipality will help curtail instances like this from happening? Anything is worth trying over nothing I think. :shrug: