Return of the F-100?
3/2/13, 02:07 PM
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Return of the F-100?
Spied! 2015 Ford F-150 or F-100?
Posted by Mark Williams | February 28, 2013
We’ve just heard from one of our favorite spy shooters, and they think they’ve seen some of the early prototypes of the next-gen Ford F-150 or something just a touch smaller. We know Ford is pretty smart about doctoring up its test trucks to throw spy photographers off the scent, but our spy might have something here. Here’s what they wrote to us:
Posted by Mark Williams | February 28, 2013
We’ve just heard from one of our favorite spy shooters, and they think they’ve seen some of the early prototypes of the next-gen Ford F-150 or something just a touch smaller. We know Ford is pretty smart about doctoring up its test trucks to throw spy photographers off the scent, but our spy might have something here. Here’s what they wrote to us:
We caught a small convoy of heavilycamouflaged Ford prototypes running the streets of Dearborn, Mich., possibly revealing one of two things: 1) These are the first prototypes for the 2015 Ford F-150, or 2) perhaps this is our first look at the Ford F-100, a smaller new product.
Caught in both SuperCrew and SuperCab configurations, the prototype trucks hide most of their styling details while also making it difficult to draw size and packaging conclusions. However, as these photos suggest, this truck is smaller than an F-150, pointing to the real possibility of a new, small Ford pickup. Here’s what we’re left with:
Five-Lug Pattern?
One of the prototypes was wearing wheel caps that suggest a lighter-duty, five-lug pattern instead of the F-150's six-lug specification. One prototype’s caps show there are five small protrusions, suggesting five lug nuts in a pentagon pattern.
Diesel Exhaust Set-Up?
The SuperCab prototypes had a split two-tip exhaust, similar to Ford's Power Stroke Super-Duty trucks, suggesting that this may have a smaller diesel engine — possibly the 3.2-liter turbodiesel inline five-cylinder that will be available in the 2014 Ford Transit vans.
Evidence of a Narrower Track?
Viewing the prototype trucks from the rear, it appears the camouflage adds some width, giving a false sense of the trucks’ actual size. The tires appear to sit well within the arches, suggesting a narrower track and smaller overall footprint than an F-150.
The fact that Ford's future truck programs are now moving beyond the mule stage is undeniable. These prototypes were out braving very sketchy weather and road conditions all around Dearborn. The subtle cues that suggest that these trucks are slightly smaller and a bit less robust than a full-fledged F-150 are consistent with reports that an F-100 is in the works. It’ll be around a 9-to-10 scale F-150; it’s also likely to use many new lightweight materials and offer much greater fuel economy. An all-aluminum F-100, with a lighter-duty suspension, wheels and other components, would realize significant fuel-economy gains while satisfying the needs of most truck buyers. And don’t forget a truck like this would greatly help Ford meet the stricter corporate average fuel economy standards in both 2016 and 2025.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/02...-or-f-100.html
Caught in both SuperCrew and SuperCab configurations, the prototype trucks hide most of their styling details while also making it difficult to draw size and packaging conclusions. However, as these photos suggest, this truck is smaller than an F-150, pointing to the real possibility of a new, small Ford pickup. Here’s what we’re left with:
Five-Lug Pattern?
One of the prototypes was wearing wheel caps that suggest a lighter-duty, five-lug pattern instead of the F-150's six-lug specification. One prototype’s caps show there are five small protrusions, suggesting five lug nuts in a pentagon pattern.
Diesel Exhaust Set-Up?
The SuperCab prototypes had a split two-tip exhaust, similar to Ford's Power Stroke Super-Duty trucks, suggesting that this may have a smaller diesel engine — possibly the 3.2-liter turbodiesel inline five-cylinder that will be available in the 2014 Ford Transit vans.
Evidence of a Narrower Track?
Viewing the prototype trucks from the rear, it appears the camouflage adds some width, giving a false sense of the trucks’ actual size. The tires appear to sit well within the arches, suggesting a narrower track and smaller overall footprint than an F-150.
The fact that Ford's future truck programs are now moving beyond the mule stage is undeniable. These prototypes were out braving very sketchy weather and road conditions all around Dearborn. The subtle cues that suggest that these trucks are slightly smaller and a bit less robust than a full-fledged F-150 are consistent with reports that an F-100 is in the works. It’ll be around a 9-to-10 scale F-150; it’s also likely to use many new lightweight materials and offer much greater fuel economy. An all-aluminum F-100, with a lighter-duty suspension, wheels and other components, would realize significant fuel-economy gains while satisfying the needs of most truck buyers. And don’t forget a truck like this would greatly help Ford meet the stricter corporate average fuel economy standards in both 2016 and 2025.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/02...-or-f-100.html
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Return of the Ford F-100?
Published March 01, 2013
Ford’s latest concept truck is a monster called the Atlas, but its next production pickup could be quite a bit smaller.
PickupTrucks.com
has spotted a fleet of pickups undergoing testing that could mark the return of the F-100 model name, which would slot under the F-150 in the company’s lineup.
Although far from confirmed, the heavily camouflaged vehicles appear to be slightly smaller than the current F-150, with a narrower track and body. They also ride on five-lug wheels, instead of six like the F-150, indicating a lighter duty ride. Based on the shape of the exhaust pipes, it's also possible that they were powered by diesel engines.
Ford discontinued the Ranger small pickup last year, saying the improved fuel efficiency and close pricing of the much larger F-150 made it redundant, but rumors have persisted that it could re-enter the segment soon.
In a recent interview with Car and Driver, Ford’s truck marketing manager, Doug Scott, confirmed that the company had determined that a market still existed for a very affordable pickup with great fuel economy and capabilities like a 1,000-pound payload and 3,000-pound tow rating, but that a business case for it had not been pinned down.
First introduced in 1948, the F-100 was supplanted by the heavier duty F-150 in 1975, and essentially replaced by the Ranger in 1983. Interestingly, Ford recently introduced an all-new Ranger for foreign markets, but it wasn’t engineered with the U.S. in mind.
Maybe the new prototypes explain why.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...#ixzz2MQ0CSGfU
Published March 01, 2013
Ford’s latest concept truck is a monster called the Atlas, but its next production pickup could be quite a bit smaller.
PickupTrucks.com
has spotted a fleet of pickups undergoing testing that could mark the return of the F-100 model name, which would slot under the F-150 in the company’s lineup.Although far from confirmed, the heavily camouflaged vehicles
appear to be slightly smaller than the current F-150, with a narrower track and body. They also ride on five-lug wheels, instead of six like the F-150, indicating a lighter duty ride. Based on the shape of the exhaust pipes, it's also possible that they were powered by diesel engines.Ford discontinued the Ranger small pickup last year, saying the improved fuel efficiency and close pricing of the much larger F-150 made it redundant, but rumors have persisted that it could re-enter the segment soon.
In a recent interview with Car and Driver
, Ford’s truck marketing manager, Doug Scott, confirmed that the company had determined that a market still existed for a very affordable pickup with great fuel economy and capabilities like a 1,000-pound payload and 3,000-pound tow rating, but that a business case for it had not been pinned down.First introduced in 1948, the F-100 was supplanted by the heavier duty F-150 in 1975, and essentially replaced by the Ranger in 1983. Interestingly, Ford recently introduced an all-new Ranger for foreign markets, but it wasn’t engineered with the U.S. in mind.
Maybe the new prototypes explain why.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...#ixzz2MQ0CSGfU
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Would be a good idea. Make an F-100 that's slightly bigger than the ranger but still smaller than the 150. Removes the need for the ranger here in the states.
I would like a little better towing than 3,000lbs though.
I would like a little better towing than 3,000lbs though.
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Interesting that F-100 rumors pick up again right after one of their engineers talks about a compact unibody pickup. So in the long run, they could have a pair of pickups underneath the F-150. An F-100 which fulfills the "slightly smaller than F-150 but still very capable" role and a unibody ute-style vehicle that fulfills the "needs to be small, cheap, and efficient and have a bed" role.
Or both concepts are being studied internally but a decision to go with one over the other hasn't happened yet.
Or both concepts are being studied internally but a decision to go with one over the other hasn't happened yet.
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Why can't they make it affordable too! My 02 f150 fx4 was listed at $30k, I bought it for $26k
Now ford doesn't even make regular cab pickups for fx4 models.
Simple but great work truck, pretty fast too since I have 5.4 in there
Now ford doesn't even make regular cab pickups for fx4 models.
Simple but great work truck, pretty fast too since I have 5.4 in there
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They make them there but not here?!?
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I'm sure I'd blow an auto out quick with all the grunt work I do on the ranch in 4X low.If the F150 is supposed to still be the workingman/contractors truck, they need to offer a version that way instead of all the gussied up current models you don't dare want to get mud on.
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Right. And now you can't even get a manny tranny.
I'm sure I'd blow an auto out quick with all the grunt work I do on the ranch in 4X low.If the F150 is supposed to still be the workingman/contractors truck, they need to offer a version that way instead of all the gussied up current models you don't dare want to get mud on.
