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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
(Post 5921805)
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Originally Posted by mustangmaniak2010
(Post 5921846)
Why?
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So I'm wondering how good could a turbo be in a revised F150 or the new Explorer? :wonder:
As we saw with the 4.6 & 5.4, engineers can tweak cam profiles/timing and tunes for either performance or low end torque pulling. But I'm not sure slapping a turbo on a smaller under powered engine will help low rpm low end torque needed for carrying weight or towing because the turbo isn't spooled up. Unless the turbo models will be for people who want these vehicles in the city but won't use them as 'trucks'. :dunno: New Explorer engines: There will be no V-8 available, but rather a 3.5 liter, V-6 good for 290 horsepower at 6,500 rpm with 255 lb-ft of torque at 4,000 rpm. The base engine will be an Ecoboost 2.0-liter four combining direct injection and turbocharging delivering 237 horsepower at 5,500 rpm with 250 lb-ft of torque from 1,750 to 4,000 rpm. Both will be coupled to a six-speed automatic transmission. Ford claims fuel savings of up to 30% but did not release any estimates since the vehicles have not been rated by the EPA. Ford claims the V-6 will tow 5,000 pounds compared with a max of 7,115 for the current V-8 equipped model. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/201...ver-2010-07-31 |
I'm pretty sure EcoBoost F-150 will be a FX2 or a similar sporty model. I don't think anyone would use EcoBoost for towing.
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
(Post 5921862)
So I'm wondering how good could a turbo be in a revised F150 or the new Explorer? :wonder:
As we saw with the 4.6 & 5.4, engineers can tweak cam profiles/timing and tunes for either performance or low end torque pulling. But I'm not sure slapping a turbo on a smaller under powered engine will help low rpm low end torque needed for carrying weight or towing because the turbo isn't spooled up. Unless the turbo models will be for people who want these vehicles in the city but won't use them as 'trucks'. :dunno: |
Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
(Post 5922165)
I don't know, have you seen how flat the torque curve on the 3.5 Ecoboost is? It makes its peak torque (350 lb-ft) from 1500 rpm all the way to 5250 rpm.
I owned a Turbo Mustang, and let me tell ya, when I was traveling on a slight grade on thruway, The car would just sail up the hills without even applying much throttle. |
The 2010/11 was a fairly extensive refresh -- body, interior, and new engines and trannies, not to mention uprated brakes and even some suspension tweaks.
I might expect the usual minor year-to-year trim and color changes and perhaps some work on the more readily modified bumper caps -- read: fix the full diaper -- but probably not too much as the Stang team focuses on 2014. The only possible substantive updates before then might be an Eco-boost 4 to shore up CAFE ratings and a Boss 302 package with a mildly tweaked motor and suspension along with the usual decorations. As for torquey turbo motors, one must dial your internal calendar to 2010 rather than 1985, today's turbo's are worlds better in terms of low end torque, throttle lag and overall driveability with modern turbos often giving flatter, deeper torque curves than their N/A counterparts of similar HP. |
I heard horror stories about turbos my entire life. I am still wary about their longevity. But, I can't deny the performance! The new Ecoboost V6 is pretty hot!
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