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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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meh....ill need to see it in person. i hope it succeeds though. c thats crazy how the new V6 makes just as much power as the 4.6 V8 in the 2010. i'd get 4WD though....a FWD Explorer makes me cringe still.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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So far I like it..I really dig the semi pillarless look of the side glass
It may not be an explorer but it's good looking.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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I think a crossover may have run over Ray Wert's mom. Either that or his first intimate experience with a woman was in the back of a body-on-frame vehicle. Whatever the reason, his article on the 2012 boarders on foaming-at-the-mouth rage. I won't link to it.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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I really like what I'm seeing so far, maybe because I don't have a romanticized ideal of the Explorer. The Explorer wasn't put on a frame for any high-minded off-roading ideal, the platform was available and cost-effective from several points of view. It never had a great suspension, a bulletproof transfer case, or a even great ground clearance. Had it been a unibody from the get-go like the XJ Cherokee it arguably would have been truer to itself.

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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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i approve, great job ford!

more pics at autoblog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/26/2...to-redemption/

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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I really like it, but having owned 4 Explorers I'm not too keen on the FWD based aspect of it.


And wtf is up with those 3rd row head rests?

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2011-...r/med/#3204480

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2011-...r/med/#3204473


Couldn't they have made them any bigger?
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:35 AM
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Pretty sure there's some crash standards behind those.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:36 AM
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. . . Ecoboost-4 with AWD might be a tempting combination for me . . . .

*EDIT: Just read EcoBoost only offered in FWD!! BAH!!!!!

I bet in side-by-side tests a 2012 Explorer V6 AWD would have better off-road capabilities then the outgoing generation . . .

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
I think a crossover may have run over Ray Wert's mom. Either that or his first intimate experience with a woman was in the back of a body-on-frame vehicle. Whatever the reason, his article on the 2012 boarders on foaming-at-the-mouth rage. I won't link to it.
I know what you're talking about. He's a big GM fanboy and is instantly jealous at anything Ford does because they aren't a government-owned basket case.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Looks nice in Red Candy.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Build And Price is up. The turbo four is missing, but everything else seems accounted for.

http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...#page=/Models/
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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Some notes:

Autoblog says the I4 EB is actually an option, the V6 is standard. Since you can only get the EB in FWD and loose a ton of towing capacity (2000 versus 5000 lbs with the V6) it looks to really be aimed at economy-minded soccer moms. Alan hinted a hybrid is coming on CNBC this morning, not immediately. I'm hopeful a 3.5 EB shows up some time with around 400 hp and 6000+ lbs towing capacity, that would give the Explorer 4 great powertrain choices.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Looks nice, if a touch overstyled in spots and unfortunately, victim of the inevitable bloat in girth and lard afflicting most cars these days. It is certainly a massive improvement over the long-in-tooth previous Explorer.

As for the girth and lard issue, Ford should issue a decree to its designers and engineers that no car can be any larger in any external dimension than the previous version and at least 10% lighter -- period -- no exceptions for whatever reason.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Yay, more black plastic! Looks like I won't be buying another Ford for a while, unless I feel like dismantling a new car to paint trim. Boo!
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Such a legendary name...God i hate crossovers!!!!
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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At least we have the Grand Cherokee.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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fronts gonna have to grow on me.....its like Explorer just jacked the front end off the out going model Edge
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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So Ford now has The Explorer, Edge and Flex that are based on pretty much on the same platform as crossovers...
Whats the point?
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