The Power Lease information i received in the mail has a Q&A section on the back and one of the questions was "What if I decide to purchase an Explorer instead of the '06 Lightning or '07 Cobra...or lease a new vehicle at that time?"

So does that pretty much sum up a guarantee that the next SVT stang will be called Cobra?

-Maria

nope, they dont know what else to call it, but fans know what the Cobra idea is.

It also states that "When production of the 2006 SVT F-150 Lightning and 2007 SVT Mustang Cobra begins, orders from PowerLease Option holders will be produced first.

cool huh?

So if the fans are familiar with the Cobra name....then it makes sense to stay with the Cobra name or else they may alienate the potential buyers

Just another question without any answer before a long time...

im sure if it has enough HP and looks good you could call it anything u want and it will sell. fans or not.

You're exactly right, if it has the HP and spells MUSTANG, it will sell no question's ask!

I realize I could have put a little more detail in my forum topic/title but "07 Cobra" looks so good. =)

You could change your sig too, "Awaiting arrival of my 2007 Ford Mustang Cobra..."

How much do you guys think the '07 SVT stang will be? Any guesses or ideas? Trying to figure out right now if I should just get a 2 or 3 year lease on the '04 Mustang and get the Cobra, or wheatever they are gonna call it, way in '07. And Maria... how do you get to be a Power Lease Option Holder? DO you just lease a Ford, or what?

I would say around $47k

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Why does everyone think the Cobra will be so expensive? argggggggghhhhhhh

OK we already know their will be several variants including the Shelby. So if they will be ADDING Mustang variants, some of which will move more up market. Why would Ford change the market of the current Cobra? Ok If the cobra IS changed to be upmarket, their will be another car priced almost exactly the same which takes the roll of the current or former SVT Cobra.

If you think their will be a under 20K V-6, a 25k GT, and then a 50K Cobra you are SO wrong. :shame:

I dunno what the heck it will be called but their will most definatly be a 34K Mustang with IRS and 400HP.

This is how it will probably be: We have heard their will be a Boss, a Mach 1, a Cobra and a Shelby. J Mays has already mentioned those cars. (BTW,I'm not getting into the "what will it be called" debate. )

I am thinking this though, the lineup should be something like:

v6

GT

28k Boss OR Mach 1

34K Cobra (This like I said, could be called something else, i.e Boss/Mach 1)

And 40k UP we get the SHELBY Variant. however many shelby variants their maybe if their are multiple.

Of course we don't know what the cars will be. Lets think about it though, they have already told us we will have the Cobra, and a SE, and a Shelby. (The Shelby could be the SE of course, but I doubt it).

Their is no reason at all that the Cobra will go UP in price!!! Where are you getting this from? Yes their are rumors of 500HP, but Ford can get 500HP easy. Trust me a gain in 70HP will not cost an extra 14K!! It didn't before did it?

Ford went from 315HP to 430HP. The Cobra didn't go up 15K did it? It did go up some, but not that much.

If anything the Shelby variant guarentees the Cobra will stay at 34K. It (the Shelby) will be Fords upmarket Mustang.

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Ok I'm calm now. :nice:


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Hey 428!

I agree with you. I would say 38K. Not untill you step up to the R-model will we see 50++.
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Ford doesn't even seem to know what they want to call the SVT car yet so I wouldn't be so fast to say anything is set in stone. As for price, the only official "printed" comment from Ford regarding the Cobra is that it will move upscale and compete with the M series. I figure it can be anywhere from 40 to 55K. Whatever SE is brought out will be the mid 30s car. I think it will be the Mach.

Actually the only official comment from Ford is that it will be called Cobra and it will be released in 07. Thats it. There is actually a brochure they sent out to some SVT powerleasers about it.

Man a Boss or Mach 1 at 28K, that would be awesome.

But then again..a GT is 300..how much hp is enough? I guess it's like the question, 'how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?'....the world will never know.

I'm just wondering how well the GT will compete with the GTO....we know the 03-04 Mach 1 can.

It all depends on the options on the next generation cobra. If it gets the sequential manual gearbox (paddle shifters) plan on paying much more than $40K for the car. For all we know, it could get a detuned version of the dry sump Ford GT motor.

Don't sweat the small stuff folks. I bleed Ford Blue as much as the next guy, and these debates are pointless and a waste of time.

Until valid information starts trickling down over the next couple of years, focus on making money to pay for all the good toys to come.

I for one would be more interested in the Cobra Roadster, as I already own a Cobra and believe you need to diversify your toys in the garage!

Keep the rubber side down fellas.

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You obviously know something that no one else here thinks. I putting my money on $36k - $39k.

I don't agree that they are pointless. The speculation is building hype about the car and getting me and a lot of other potential buyers very excited about it. I haven't owned a Mustang since 1996. I can either buy the current or spend my time getting geared up for the next one. In that respect, these threads serve a purpose to pacify me and keep me from buying the current Cobra. It is a one shot deal for me. I will only buy one and keep it forever. I'd rather get the new style and hopefully 500hp version. I don't want SMG.

I don't think they will be that high. Ford will price themselves right out of the market IMHO.

One of the reasons the GTO is not selling is because dealers said that its priced too high. If a SE come out, and they price it in the mid 30s, they'll be sitting on delaers lots for a long time.

I agree with you guys... I am thinking the Mach 1 is gonna come out not too long after job 1, and run around $28-$29k... then maybe a Cobra in the mid to high 30's. Mestizo... what you said about the GTO being faster or not than the GT. I got the scoop on that. I watched a special on Speed TV on the GTO... just curious about the competition... the GTO does 0-60 in 5.4 and 5.3 seconds, with the automatic and manual, respectively. The Mustang GT does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. So, I just don't see how the GTO is gonna sell. Sure it's got more horsepower, but you are spending thousands more to get the same speed, because the thing weighs so much. And it really is ugly. I'm just wondering if I should lease the '05 Mustang for 2 or 3 years, and then when the lease is up- get me a new Cobra. It'll be out by then, for sure. Any thoughts on this, anyone?

Yes, lease the 05 GT, and then get the Cobra. The Cobra is going to be bad. Bad, as in really mean looks and a ton of horsepower. I really believe the Cobra will be worth every penny. :)

In other words, it'll be sick. ;)

I hear ya I think the GTO should have had a more retro design. Basing the car on the Grand Prix was not such a great idea its too plain

I hear ya I think the GTO should have had a more retro design. Basing the car on the Grand Prix was not such a great idea its too plain [/b][/quote]
The GTO is not based on the Grand Prix. It is based on the Holden Monaro, built and designed in Australia. When they designed the Monaro, they didn't have a Grand Prix in mind. The only thing on the front fascia that is different from the Monaro are the twin grilles. The headlights are the same as the Monaro, the foglights are in the same position as the Monaro, the taillights are the same as the Monaro. The twin grilles make it look like a Grand Prix, but then what do you expect? Every Pontiac has the twin grilles, just like every BMW has the twin grilles. Its corporate identity. They want you to know its a Pontiac.

Couldn't have said it better myself ;)

I don't know about anyone else, but I prefer my car to stand out from the myriad of others out there.

What other car out there looks exactly like a Mustang ...from Ford .. NOTHING.

Corporate identity my eye. It's called being extremly lazy in the development/design department.

It's called saving money by using as much of an existing design as possible.

A lot of people on these forums are asking why Ford doesn't bring over some of the FOA cars... well, that's exactly what GM did with the GTO. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the GTO much either, but I wouldn't call it lazy, just poor execution.

I don't think they will be that high. Ford will price themselves right out of the market IMHO.

One of the reasons the GTO is not selling is because dealers said that its priced too high. If a SE come out, and they price it in the mid 30s, they'll be sitting on delaers lots for a long time. [/b][/quote]
Rob,

Ford has been pushing the current Cobra up and up every year in price the same way GM has kept adding costs to the Corvette. They are pushing the prices up so that we are not in sticker shock when we see the new models come out. Some Cobra's are over 40K MSRP right now!

As for the GTO; a lot of reasons are to blame for low sales but I would point my finger at styling before blaming the dealer markups. My neighbor bought a black one which wasn't marked up but it looks like every other Pontiac I see. At first I thought it was a Grand Prix!

Will a 40-50K Cobra sell? Saleen prices are in the same ballpark and they don't have many problems moving cars, even with limited Saleen authorized dealerships. If the car has Corvette performance and BMW quality it has a good chance. Having Shelby's name on it will be just an extra for Ford.

We have a $40350 Cobra convertible in stock now. I hope the prices don't go up to much more, but they're almost 50k now.

Rob,

Ford has been pushing the current Cobra up and up every year in price the same way GM has kept adding costs to the Corvette. They are pushing the prices up so that we are not in sticker shock when we see the new models come out. Some Cobra's are over 40K MSRP right now!

As for the GTO; a lot of reasons are to blame for low sales but I would point my finger at styling before blaming the dealer markups. My neighbor bought a black one which wasn't marked up but it looks like every other Pontiac I see. At first I thought it was a Grand Prix!

Will a 40-50K Cobra sell? Saleen prices are in the same ballpark and they don't have many problems moving cars, even with limited Saleen authorized dealerships. If the car has Corvette performance and BMW quality it has a good chance. Having Shelby's name on it will be just an extra for Ford. [/b][/quote]
The Saleens don't sell that well. The reason - a lot more performance from a $35k Cobra. they will raise the price, but not that much. I say $38k for coupe.

Ford wants to keep their mustang customers and get some of old f body customers I really do not believe a new cobra price will be as a big increase as some believe, it goes against the mustang theory to price it out of reason, look for the new cobra to increase 1000 to 2500.

People rarely keep cars forever, thus the reason why you see 2-3-4 owner 1968 Shelby GT500KR's.

I thought the same thing back in 1996 when I bought my 305HP Cobra Convertible, and now it hardly ever leaves the garage and is going up for sale here in the next two weeks. Never say never.

I have to make room in the garage for Ford's latest and greatest, and I see no reason to hang on to a depreciable asset that hardly gets used, let alone the insurance costs.

When the new Cobra comes out, some people will love it, some will complain about it.

After talking with J Mays at the Detroit auto show, it will be much more expensive than the current version, will be tighter, and more refined. It may have SMG, it may not, but either way, plan on spending some big $$ over the current version for a car that really won't compare to the current, outdated 2003-4 variety.

Will they sell with a 45-50K price tag? My guess is at least in the first year, they will fly off the shelf like hot cakes. From there, only time will tell.

I will have kids getting cars then go to college after that. I have a narrow window to buy my toy. I may sell it someday, but probably after kids are out of college. My son is only 4, so that will be a long time. It'll be hard for me to replace it, if I sell it before then. Obviously, if it has problems, i won't keep it.

People rarely keep cars forever, thus the reason why you see 2-3-4 owner 1968 Shelby GT500KR's.

I thought the same thing back in 1996 when I bought my 305HP Cobra Convertible, and now it hardly ever leaves the garage and is going up for sale here in the next two weeks. Never say never.

I have to make room in the garage for Ford's latest and greatest, and I see no reason to hang on to a depreciable asset that hardly gets used, let alone the insurance costs.

When the new Cobra comes out, some people will love it, some will complain about it.

After talking with J Mays at the Detroit auto show, it will be much more expensive than the current version, will be tighter, and more refined. It may have SMG, it may not, but either way, plan on spending some big $$ over the current version for a car that really won't compare to the current, outdated 2003-4 variety.

Will they sell with a 45-50K price tag? My guess is at least in the first year, they will fly off the shelf like hot cakes. From there, only time will tell. [/b][/quote]
I'm keeping my future Mustang forever, and that's a fact. Unless of course it got mutilated or stolen. But for normal circumstances it's mine tilll I die ;)

Says who? They will probably aim a special edition car at that crowd. So far we have more indication that the car is going up in price rather than staying the same.

BTW; if we are believing everything Mays' says about the car then it will have 500 HP and quite possibly the SMG as an option. I don't see that costing only 1-2K more.

Whats SMG? Its slipping my mind.

Sequential Manual Gearbox

Bascially a paddle shifted manual gearbox where the gears and clutch are controlled by servo motors and electronics as opposed to you.

This is different from an autostick (example) where it is an automatic transmission and you can change the shift points.