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Error404 1/6/07 11:50 AM

infrared photographs
 
I have wanted to get into digital InfraRed photography for a while now, so this christmas I picked up a used 10d and had it converted to see only InfraRed light. I'm pleased with the results!

Here are some 'typical' colors that are usually associated with digital IR photography, swapping the red and blue channels. I'll be experimenting with the colors more later on, so for now it's just the typical :-) No snow, the IR effect makes green vegetation bright white.

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_01.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_02.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_03.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_04.jpg

Lalo 1/6/07 11:51 AM

That is pretty cool!

Dougxox 1/6/07 03:18 PM

I played around with the film version of infrared years ago, had to keep the film in the refrigerator and get it developed quick. wanted to do some stuff with high heat but lost interest. Cool shots. Where's the stang in IR?

Scothew 1/6/07 05:54 PM

Awesome pics Daniel. I've seen some D50's that have been converted for IR and I think that would be just something awesome to have. Especially in the firefighting work I get to be involved with.

Btw, that your element at the bottom of the 3rd pic?

Error404 1/6/07 07:29 PM

yep, that's my friends element. it's actually a pretty cool vehicle, and nice for traveling with alot of gear, like camping and such.

no IR stang yet, that was actually the first time out with the IR camera, just making sure it worked! Though I do have some shots of it from when I was in Louisiana this Christmas, I'll post them up in a day or so :-)

Scothew 1/8/07 07:02 AM

<-- has an element.. they are the most functional vehicle i've ever owned.

future9er24 1/8/07 06:36 PM

Love em :nice: Can't wait to see some IR Mustang photos :)

Error404 1/26/07 10:22 AM

Another one:


http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/out_of_place_01.jpg

Scothew 1/26/07 10:59 AM

Daniel, thats killer man! I especially love the way it did the foliage on the tree far right. Although I would love to see a non-infrared of the same shot to compare.

Strickland 1/26/07 11:36 AM

IR photography always reminds me of a stylized movie. The colors are so ... steril (to use a term poorly).

Alloy 07 RN 1/26/07 11:41 AM

Stunning pics!
They look GREAT!

Error404 1/27/07 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by Scothew (Post 829230)
Daniel, thats killer man! I especially love the way it did the foliage on the tree far right. Although I would love to see a non-infrared of the same shot to compare.


I just happen to have a comparison of visible light and infrared light! I had to crop the visible light image to match closly the size of the IR light, because they were taken at different focal lengths. But the comparison is pretty good. The trees would have been alot brighter in the IR version, if it would have been spring time and the trees were more green. No processing on these, just desaturation to show the difference in values.


http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/light_01.jpg


http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/light_02.jpg


and this is what the IR shots look like as the camera captures them, before any work is done on them:

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_01_original.jpg

Blip 1/27/07 05:58 AM

I really like the IR shot untouched in red tones.

Error404 1/28/07 02:11 AM

brought my IR camera and my little Zeiss 45mm tessar/pancake lens to the Getty museum this afternoon.

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/getty_v01.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/getty_v02.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/getty_v03.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/getty_v04.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/getty_v05.jpg

Scothew 1/28/07 11:25 AM

I am definitely having my D50 converted to infrared when I buy a D80. But in the mean time, is there a filter I can use on my lens that will give me the infrared aspect, or can it be done in post processing?

Error404 1/28/07 11:44 AM

You can fake the look a little bit with a black and white image, by using only the red channel of your image, that will darken the sky and make plants seem a bit brighter. You won't get the funky colors though. Try putting a channel mixer above your image, check it to monochrome, take your red down to -100, green to +200, and blue to -50. That will kind of punch up the greens, and bring down the reds.

As for filters, yes they do have filters that block alot of visible light. A Wratten 87C and maybe a dark neutral density filter on top will work. But the problem is that there is an InfraRed blocking filter infront of most digital sensors. So, this means you'll be in for some long shutter speeds, because you are having to open the shutter for a real long time to let some IR light squeeze through the IR blocking filter. Your trees will be blurred due to their motion during the long exposure, and stuff like that.

To be honest, I think using filters is alot of trouble to go through, especially with the long shutter speeds. Once you have the IR filter removed and a visible light filter added infront of your chip, then it's just as sensitive to IR light as it was visible light, you don't need a tripod on a normal day. (though I usually use one anyway)

Scothew 1/28/07 12:15 PM

Yeah long exposures is exactly why I want to have my D50 converted to straight IR, but i'll have to get something to shoot color first (read: D80, since both use the same lens's and memory cards)

Error404 1/28/07 12:19 PM

Yep, that's a good idea :-) I use my zeiss and canon glass on both of my digital cameras, it's nice that way! Only problem is that my IR camera has a smaller chip, so that makes my 28mm turn into almost a 50mm!! :-( Maybe some day I'll sell this one and get a larger chip IR camera to match my regular light digital.

rmays06 1/28/07 02:13 PM

Utterly amazing what you can do. Thanks for sharing those. It is awsome what gifted photographers can do.

Scothew 1/29/07 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 830718)
Only problem is that my IR camera has a smaller chip

Luckily Nikon has stayed with the same chip size from thier cheapest DSLR to thier highest end. 1.5 all the way :nice:

Error404 1/29/07 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Scothew (Post 831150)
Luckily Nikon has stayed with the same chip size from thier cheapest DSLR to thier highest end. 1.5 all the way :nice:

My 35mm and other digital body both have larger surface areas, kinda wish they would just keep them all the same. :doh::grin:

Ray Man 1/29/07 11:04 PM

Sweeeeet...
 
Very nice! I have an "old" Canon D30, do you know if that can be converted?

Ray

Error404 1/29/07 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Man (Post 831888)
Very nice! I have an "old" Canon D30, do you know if that can be converted?

Ray

yep, www.lifepixel.com will do it, for about $350 (looks like they have raised their price! my 10d ran $300 a few months back). It's well worth it though, considering the filters, long shutter speeds, and no viewfinder that the dark wratten filters give you. With it converted, it's just like shooting a normal slr, those I posted in this thread were all hand held! :) You just have to check your exposure to make sure you aren't blowing out the highlights, that's easy to do because I think the camera still meters for the visible light, not the IR light that the sensor chip is capturing. I haven't had to compensate more than 1 2/3 stops though, so it's fairly accurate.

Once it's converted though, the only way for the camera to go back to visible light is to have it re-converted though. But considering the price of our old canons, it costs more to have it converted, than it does to pick up another used body! :screwy: lol :rofl2:

mobster 1/29/07 11:15 PM

Or if you are really brave (or stupid, you decide) you can remove the IR filter yourself: http://www.astrosurf.org/buil/350d/350d.htm

Error404 1/29/07 11:36 PM

yep, I was gonna give that a try myself, but I figured it was probably worth it just to have it done by someone who knows what they are doing :-)

Ray Man 1/30/07 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 831891)
yep, www.lifepixel.com will do it, for about $350 (looks like they have raised their price! my 10d ran $300 a few months back). It's well worth it though, considering the filters, long shutter speeds, and no viewfinder that the dark wratten filters give you. With it converted, it's just like shooting a normal slr, those I posted in this thread were all hand held! :) You just have to check your exposure to make sure you aren't blowing out the highlights, that's easy to do because I think the camera still meters for the visible light, not the IR light that the sensor chip is capturing. I haven't had to compensate more than 1 2/3 stops though, so it's fairly accurate.

Once it's converted though, the only way for the camera to go back to visible light is to have it re-converted though. But considering the price of our old canons, it costs more to have it converted, than it does to pick up another used body! :screwy: lol :rofl2:

Thanks Daniel,

I'm packing my camera up tomorrow for shipping. Hey... this is like modding my car :doh:. Thanks a lot :rolleyes:

:jester:

Error404 1/30/07 10:22 PM

haha! :-D Enjoy it, I know you will! You'll want to probably swap the red and green channels and do auto-levels/curves on all your IR images to get something that doesn't look like T100 terminator vision. I have an action I created that does that, then I tweak from there.

Scothew 1/30/07 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Man (Post 832591)
Thanks Daniel,

I'm packing my camera up tomorrow for shipping. Hey... this is like modding my car :doh:. Thanks a lot :rolleyes:

:jester:

:lol: I know, Im on the search for a good deal on a D50 body.. dont even mind used if its in good shape. Daniel, my wife hates you btw for this.:jester:

Scothew 1/30/07 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Man (Post 832591)
Thanks Daniel,

I'm packing my camera up tomorrow for shipping. Hey... this is like modding my car :doh:. Thanks a lot :rolleyes:

:jester:

:lol: I know, Im on the search for a good deal on a D50 body.. dont even mind used if its in good shape. Daniel, my wife is not pleased with you for this.:jester:

Ray Man 1/31/07 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 832595)
haha! :-D Enjoy it, I know you will! You'll want to probably swap the red and green channels and do auto-levels/curves on all your IR images to get something that doesn't look like T100 terminator vision. I have an action I created that does that, then I tweak from there.

That's a great idea. I will do that immediately. :nice:

Error404 1/31/07 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Scothew (Post 832597)
:lol: I know, Im on the search for a good deal on a D50 body.. dont even mind used if its in good shape. Daniel, my wife is not pleased with you for this.:jester:

HAHA! Just make sure you save some funding for some new cloths for her :grin: and tell her it's a trade :rofl2: Don't look at my sunsets, or you'll be wanting an 800mm lens :banghead:

Error404 2/3/07 07:30 PM

Maybe this is what mars would look like with a blue atmosphere?

More to come tomorrow, I head out with a friend for the afternoon/evening tomorrow, so I'll be there longer and bring my tripod. Should get some better shots then, well at least more anyway.

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_01.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_02.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_03.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_04.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_05.jpg

TillmanSpeed 2/4/07 10:26 PM

You have some of the most amazing photography I've ever seen. Point blank.

Error404 2/4/07 10:34 PM

Thanks Tillman, I'm glad you enjoy them as much as I do :)


Here are some tonight. 'the eagle' isn't actually an IR shot, but I tinted it to match the others.


http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_06.jpg


http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_07.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_08.jpg

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_09.jpg

Error404 2/5/07 11:18 PM

here is another from the same night and location. Not an infrared shot, but figure I'd still post it here

http://www.danielbuck.net/wip/ir_rocks_12.jpg

mobster 3/2/07 03:32 PM

Awesome work!
I ordered a IR filter weds. I can't wait til it gets here.

Edit: you may have already mentioned this but what kind of filter do you use?

Error404 3/2/07 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by mobster (Post 855746)
Awesome work!
I ordered a IR filter weds. I can't wait til it gets here.

Edit: you may have already mentioned this but what kind of filter do you use?

Awesome :) Hope you get some good results!

I don't actually use filters. I have an older digital body (canon 10d) converted to an IR only camera, so no filters are needed.

mobster 3/2/07 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Error404 (Post 855765)
Awesome :) Hope you get some good results!

I don't actually use filters. I have an older digital body (canon 10d) converted to an IR only camera, so no filters are needed.

oh yeah, I remember reading that now...
thanks for the reply.


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