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aborick 4/26/24 09:22 AM

05-09 Shifter Experiment Fab WORKS!
 
Hey all.

I completed my Automatic Shifter Build experiment and it works perfectly.

Rather than going with the seemingly only other option of the TCI Rachet Shifter, I fabricated my own Ball Shifter because I don't like the look of the big "T" style Shifters.

I working used a White Madness Ball Shifter for a 2010-2014. I bored it out to fit the 2005-2009 Shifter Post.
It looks more like a Manual Ball Shifter, but works as the normal Automatic Shifter.

I connected the Overdrive Button separately to
12mm DC Power Button 5V LED, Waterproof Latching Push Button Switch On/Off 23V (Red 2V).
I drilled a hole and dropped it into the Button Switch in console to the right of the shifter.
I set it for the LED to be on when overdrive is off.

Let me know your thoughts.https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...5689bf5256.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...95b8c70bd3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...d92b48f4b0.jpg

jallen670 4/28/24 04:10 AM

Hey there, new member here. I've been looking for ways to come up with this same solution for my 2006 automatic. Do you have any pics of the install process? The shifter shaft is such a large plastic square - I didn't realize there was enough room in the White Madness Garage knob to bore it out for that. Thanks!

aborick 4/28/24 08:36 AM

Hey.
Thanks for the feedback.
Sorry, I didn't think at the time to take pics as I went through the installation and fabrication.

jallen670 4/28/24 09:15 AM

Totally understand, thanks anyway. Looks fantastic.

aborick 4/28/24 11:10 AM

My shifter doesn't have the plastic block at the bottom of the shifter, but the shifter knob will still fit on the upper part of the shifter. It will just sit an inch higher.

jallen670 4/28/24 12:23 PM

When you say the block, do you mean the cover with the PRND321? I figured it would work best with that removed. I did get a trim ring and boot from a 5-speed car, so I figured what's the point of leaving that PRNDL cover on. I was more concerned about the thickness of the plastic stump, once the T-handle/cover is removed... I wasn't sure (from pictures) that the WM shifter had enough aluminum to be able to bore it out enough. I ordered it, so I'll see it first-hand. I stumbled onto this idea because I picked up a really clean console from a 2009 Bullitt, mainly because it still had all the factory ambient lighting components... they left the boot and knob on it and I thought, wait a minute - this could almost work. Finally searched "home made shifter handle for 05-09 Mustang" and stumbled onto your post.

m05fastbackGT 4/28/24 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by aborick (Post 7085062)
Hey all.

I completed my Automatic Shifter Build experiment and it works perfectly.

Rather than going with the seemingly only other option of the TCI Rachet Shifter, I fabricated my own Ball Shifter because I don't like the look of the big "T" style Shifters.

I working used a White Madness Ball Shifter for a 2010-2014. I bored it out to fit the 2005-2009 Shifter Post.
It looks more like a Manual Ball Shifter, but works as the normal Automatic Shifter.

I connected the Overdrive Button separately to
12mm DC Power Button 5V LED, Waterproof Latching Push Button Switch On/Off 23V (Red 2V).
I drilled a hole and dropped it into the Button Switch in console to the right of the shifter.
I set it for the LED to be on when overdrive is off.

Let me know your thoughts.https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...5689bf5256.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...95b8c70bd3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...d92b48f4b0.jpg

That is definitely one fine fabrication, as I have never seen an automatic gear shifter look so identical to a manual before... In fact, I would have never guessed your car had an automatic trans if you had not mentioned this in your post submission... In the meantime, job well done... Also, thanks for sharing and congrats... :nice:

aborick 4/28/24 02:12 PM

My shifter did not have the plastic at the bottom of the shifter shaft.
Mine looked like this.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...044ced6151.jpg

jallen670 4/28/24 03:37 PM

Gotcha. That appears to be a 2010-2014 shifter. So did you change that at some point, or was it in the car when you bought it?

This is a stock 2005-2009 shifter, which is what I have:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...fe7eba5078.jpg

aborick 4/28/24 03:52 PM

Interesting.
I bought the car 6 years ago and it was this way.

m05fastbackGT 4/29/24 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by aborick (Post 7085103)
My shifter did not have the plastic at the bottom of the shifter shaft.
Mine looked like this.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...044ced6151.jpg


Originally Posted by jallen670 (Post 7085105)
Gotcha. That appears to be a 2010-2014 shifter. So did you change that at some point, or was it in the car when you bought it?

This is a stock 2005-2009 shifter, which is what I have:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...fe7eba5078.jpg

Thanks for the heads up, as this would appear to make the most sense IMO.


Originally Posted by aborick (Post 7085106)
Interesting.
I bought the car 6 years ago and it was this way.

Just as Jallen posted above, it would appear the previous owner swapped out the 05-09 shifter for the 2010-14 shifter.

jallen670 5/14/24 06:47 AM

You were an inspiration, aborick. Installed a 2010 shifter with White Madness ball in my 2006 automatic. Swapped in a console from a 2009 Bullitt with ambient lighting while I had the old console out, because why not.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...02d24a93a.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...b488db9b4.jpeg

05stangkc 5/14/24 07:04 AM

:nice:

Very Cool!

Looks Great!

KC

Have You Considered an Electronic Gear Indicator??


https://www.google.com/search?client...gear+indicator

I Really Something Like This Would Be Cool!

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...iABEgIxrPD_BwE

jallen670 5/14/24 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by 05stangkc (Post 7085477)
:nice:

Very Cool!

Looks Great!

KC

Have You Considered an Electronic Gear Indicator??


https://www.google.com/search?client...gear+indicator

I Really Something Like This Would Be Cool!

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...iABEgIxrPD_BwE


Thanks for that, KC - I think something like that could be a slick solution. I had considered making a custom plate for inside the bezel, as that’s just a Bullitt boot and bezel flipped 180 degrees, so the boot slack is on the side that needs it - it is still very tight, though. Maybe a combination of some kind of aluminum plate with a small indicator mounted in it? I see more internet research in my future…

05stangkc 5/14/24 11:28 AM

You Are Welcome!

I Thought About a Mechanical Solution as Well. Simply a Pointer in a Slot With Some Nice Lettered Font Next to it. Whatever You Come Up With It Would Be great To See Some How To Pics For The Viewing Audience! Some Good Research Would Be Looking at Factory Floor Shifts Over the Years and See How The Factory Had it Set Up. What Would Be Way Cool is Somehow Adapting The Guts Out of An Earlier Mustang Bezel. Just a Thought! Just Spitballing To Get You Thinking!

Another Good Place to Look For Idea's Would Be at a Street Rod Show As a Lot of Those Cars Had Transplanted Shifters & The Like!

Best of Luck & We Look Forward To Your Solution!

Kc

m05fastbackGT 5/14/24 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by jallen670 (Post 7085476)
You were an inspiration, aborick. Installed a 2010 shifter with White Madness ball in my 2006 automatic. Swapped in a console from a 2009 Bullitt with ambient lighting while I had the old console out, because why not.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...02d24a93a.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...b488db9b4.jpeg

You did such an amazing job with the 2010 shifter and white madness ball... If anything, it could fool those who are unfamiliar into thinking you have a manual trans shifter over an auto trans shifter... It would probably even fool me every so often whenever attempting to access the clutch petal which would obviously be missing...LOL. In the meantime, I would also follow Kevin's advice below by fabricating either an electronic gear selector or fabricate a custom plate with gear indicator as you mentioned would also look very unique and cool, to say the very least... Meanwhile, thank you for keeping us all updated and congrats. :nice:


Originally Posted by 05stangkc (Post 7085477)
:nice:

Very Cool!

Looks Great!

KC

Have You Considered an Electronic Gear Indicator??


https://www.google.com/search?client...gear+indicator

I Really Something Like This Would Be Cool!

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...iABEgIxrPD_BwE

It's very cool looking indeed!


Originally Posted by jallen670 (Post 7085483)
Thanks for that, KC - I think something like that could be a slick solution. I had considered making a custom plate for inside the bezel, as that’s just a Bullitt boot and bezel flipped 180 degrees, so the boot slack is on the side that needs it - it is still very tight, though. Maybe a combination of some kind of aluminum plate with a small indicator mounted in it? I see more internet research in my future…

I also think fabricating a custom plate for inside the bezel would be a very solution as well... :nice:

jallen670 5/14/24 05:12 PM

I stand corrected on something I posted early in this thread. Rick’s 2005’s shifter is likely original and not swapped out by the previous owner. I now understand why he noted boring out the White Madness shifter to fit the larger diameter post. I dissected my 2006 shifter and found it does not match the pic I re-posted of the square plastic stump. It would appear early S197s likely had a different design where the plastic block was part of the T-handle (Pic 1). Mine is an early 2006 (mfg 8/05), so there had to be a revision sometime after that. This earlier design, it’s worth noting, is a 2-piece design, where the linkage bracket is stamped steel and is screwed onto the plastic body of the shifter (Pic 2). On mine, this screw had backed out several threads, which probably explains the sloppiness I was feeling. I was attributing this to the mostly plastic design, but that’s probably not the case, as the 2010 has even more plastic, though with its one-piece design, the linkage bracket is part of the main housing. Anyway, for Rick, or anyone who still has this original design on their car, it’d be worth checking that screw if your shifter action is feeling spongy (Pic 3).

Pic 1:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...acfcdb972.jpeg

Pic 2:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...ede518767.jpeg

Pic 3:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...8ba03d3be.jpeg

05stangkc 5/14/24 05:28 PM

FYI, That is The Early Style and You Could Swap The Black Handle For The Silver One on The Early Cars. Be Advised The Later Ones Don't Like To Go Back Together if You Pop The Knob Off. There are a Couple of Threads in Here Where This Has Happened!

The Earlier Style Was More Durable Except For The Accordian Slide Insert Getting Jammed Up!

Here We Go!

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ussion-549852/

KC

aborick 5/15/24 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by jallen670 (Post 7085476)
You were an inspiration, aborick. Installed a 2010 shifter with White Madness ball in my 2006 automatic. Swapped in a console from a 2009 Bullitt with ambient lighting while I had the old console out, because why not.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...02d24a93a.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...b488db9b4.jpeg

Looks awesome! Very nice job.

aborick 5/15/24 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by jallen670 (Post 7085492)
I stand corrected on something I posted early in this thread. Rick’s 2005’s shifter is likely original and not swapped out by the previous owner. I now understand why he noted boring out the White Madness shifter to fit the larger diameter post. I dissected my 2006 shifter and found it does not match the pic I re-posted of the square plastic stump. It would appear early S197s likely had a different design where the plastic block was part of the T-handle (Pic 1). Mine is an early 2006 (mfg 8/05), so there had to be a revision sometime after that. This earlier design, it’s worth noting, is a 2-piece design, where the linkage bracket is stamped steel and is screwed onto the plastic body of the shifter (Pic 2). On mine, this screw had backed out several threads, which probably explains the sloppiness I was feeling. I was attributing this to the mostly plastic design, but that’s probably not the case, as the 2010 has even more plastic, though with its one-piece design, the linkage bracket is part of the main housing. Anyway, for Rick, or anyone who still has this original design on their car, it’d be worth checking that screw if your shifter action is feeling spongy (Pic 3).

Pic 1:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...acfcdb972.jpeg

Pic 2:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...ede518767.jpeg

Pic 3:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...8ba03d3be.jpeg

Thanks for the update.
I checked the bolt and added a little locktite just in case.


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