2009 Mustang Gt vs. 2008 Mini Cooper S
 

hey all, i drive a 2009 mustang GT and my bud just got a mini cooper s, and he says its pretty quick, now...im a big american muscle fan, always have been and i always like to poke fun at him (use to have a rice rocket) and tell him that a good old v8=:drool:

if me and him were to ever test our cars at eachother (on a track :D)
how would it go?

im honestly worried, cuz that little car is tiny and light.

my car is stock with K&N CAI but im lookin at getting 4.10 gears and a tune to go along with it, i just wanna make my car eat his for breakfast, any input?


btw if this is a dumb question im sorry! im new to all this, and nothing against mini's for all you fans out there, i just wanna show him the mustang means business.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Mini is ok, but I don't think its anywhere near Mustang in performance.

a mini s makes 170 hp and not tis not that light of a car.The mini cooper is about 2800 lbs and the mustang is around 3500 lb.

around a road course the mini would do ok but on a qt mile track it would be crushed.

If you're sticking with a straight section of road or a drag strip, the Mustang will win. If you're talking about a twisty road, autocross course, or road course, and the Mini owner can drive, than I'd probably vote for the Cooper S.

I love both my Mini Cooper and Mustang, but they are about as different from eachother as two cars can be.

Agreed, you have a real apples and rutabagas. Reasonably stock, Mustang definitely in a straight line or even a very open road course track. Get on winding back roads or a tight road course or slalom and that closed top go-cart will likely scamper right away from the blunderbuss Mustang.

But yeah, two very different, and very good, approaches to driving fun.

I say no way no how on any course will the mini win.

What he said X 100!! ... lol :nice:



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In Car and Drivers' Lighting Lap tests (laps around Virginia Intl. Raceway), the results were as follows:
2006 Mustang GT 3:20.9
2007 Mini Cooper S 3:22.9

2010 Mustang GT 3:13.3 (with Pirelli P-Zeros installed)

The "go kart" Mini is 2 seconds slower than the "blunderbuss" Mustang. I don't think driver skill is going to overcome that kind of difference. The difference is even more if the Mustang has good tires like the 2010 GT that was tested.

On a road course it will come down to two main things (assuming both cars are on similar tires). Driving skill and the number and lengths of the straight sections. The Mini will definitely have an advantage in the corners stock vs stock, and the Mustang will have definitely have an advantage in the straightaways. Some tighter, shorter road courses will favor the Mini, other more wide open courses will favor the Mustang.

Nooooooooooooooo!!!! :) and both cars will have stock tires?? And the course would have to be tighter than the turning radis of the mustang LoL Just messing with you. Really tho I'm sticking to my first post.

Mini wins in parallel parking, the rest is history. :nice:

This. Sorry guys, the mini just doesn't have the power to compete with the stang on any race track. Maybe autocross, but even then I doubt it...

lol this guy had me going, mini vs a mustang ahaha nice!

How many of you guys have actually driven a Mini?

Never driven myself, but I sure have passed plenty. :grin:

I have driven 3. kinda like a mazda 3 or a fiesta.

I have, they are nimble and "feel fast" but so does a go cart going 50mph.
I think it would probably be nice around a road course.

if I could fit in one (6'4), I'd get one, I love the little things, could be really cool with the right mods.

Actually I have more leg room in my Mini Cooper than I do in my Mustang. I'm only 6'1", but I have a 34" inseam, and usually have the seat several clicks from the rearmost position.

My buddy has one of those 168hp deals. I've ridden in it a few times he likes it and it is a decent car but I would never take it to the races.

I rode in one some days ago. Nice little car and pretty nimble. The chick that owns it was a plus too :grin: But Mustang > Mini.

thanks for all the replies guys, glad to hear.

im relieved the mini isnt competition because i would have to go all out with my paychecks to keep things in my favor if not haha :D

only reason i was concerned is ive driven my mothers GTI every once in a while and that thing feels ridiculous! cant really judge cuz the way it drive feels completely different but just wanted to check all this.

and those numbers of the mini and the mustang are good to hear
and the newer mustangs =:drool:

On sound alone the Mustang wins.

VVVRRROOOOOMMM

To

RINNNNGGG DINNGGG DIINGG

And the Mustang can really shroten up it's turn radius with some judicious use of the loud pedal. Can't say that for a Mini.

Having owned and modified a MINI Cooper S (yes, it really is CAPITALIZED) I can tell you that it will outperform a Mustang GT on a tight auto-x course, as well as the tighter and twistier parts of most road courses. The Car & Driver Lightning laps are on a track that has both long straight sections and the tighter sections too. Compare the different section as well as overall times to see the strengths and weaknesses of both cars.

As for straight line performance, my modified MCS ran a 14.93 1/4 @ 93 mph. Not too bad for a 1.6 litre, supercharged I4 with FWD. Is it GT territory? No, but it is a quick and excellent handling road car - small, agile, it's really an urban assault vehicle.

So why is a MINI driver posting on Mustang Source? It might be because I have a Boss 302 on order. A factory made road/track car with enough good to be really B-A-D. I can't wait for delivery. Once that arrives, I'll probably sell the MINI, or relegate it to winter use.

Mustang by far! He better get used to seeing your back side.

Interesting conversation here. There is no doubt that Mustangs are fast and, at least with the current generation, handle pretty darn well. A properly modified Mini can beat a stock Mustang GT (not the current 5.0). I know because I have done so. Not by much, but a win is a win. My car has dyno'd at 223 at the wheels, roughly 255 bhp. Now, take the current 5.0 or a modded older GT, and the Mustang wins, no problem.

Don't get me wrong, I love Mustangs, but it's a lot of fun to make small cars fast too :)

I can mod a Taurus to outrun a Mustang and a Mini, but we're talking about mostly stock cars here.

Oh, well in that case, Mustang wins, hands down.:nice:

I own both a 2010 Mini S (with the sports suspension package) and a 2006 Mustang GT Vert...

Mini: Quick and nimble... I can take corners on that thing without a sweat... Probably at higher speeds than in the Mustang... And it's quick for a little car! Like a previous poster said, it's like a go kart! LOL! And I am 6' tall and fit in it with room to spare! The back seat is about as useful as the Mustangs though... LOL!

Mustang: Raw power... I drive the Mini on a daily basis and any time I think it's a quick little car and maybe I don't need the Mustang (it sits in the garage, except for weekend driving mostly), I go out to the Mustang and take it for a ride... From the first press of the go pedal, it's a reminder of why I keep the car! ;) The Mini is quick, but nothing beats that raw power when you put your foot down... :D I have the 3.73 gears in the Mustang and it's quick... And fun...

In a straight race, the Mustang would blow it away. On a road course, depending on how twisty it would be would make a huge difference, cause that Mini can maintain speed through most corners where you'd have to slow in the Mustang. But 9 times out of 10, the Mustang would win IMO...

I'll take that bet at an autocross. At most road courses I'm with ya though since they tend to have enough sections where the mini's advantage through the turns is nullified by the Mustangs better power.