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I ordered the whole kit for $125.90 with shipping (no tax) online from Zaino's. I should be getting it Tuesday or Wednesday.
11/22/04, 08:00 AM
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www.zainobros.com They can mail it to you.
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With the overwhelming recommendations for Zaino Brother products, I wrote the company for some clarifications on the use of their products. It appears the two "front-runners" on products on the Autopia website was Klasse and Zaino. I haven't decided yet which to use. I want what is easier. This is more involved than some people might want. But, if you look through the autopia website, many of the recommended exterior detailing processes take several steps, and have their nuances. I remember the days of blue coral. I thought it was so good, just because it was darn hard to get off the car.
Below are the directions I received from Sal Zaino. I have not used the products, and followed up simply because of the recommendations throughout this forum, as well as the BMW forums.
First, Sal says to wash the new car with Dawn, to remove the existing wax.( In terms of what to do with a new car, there are other posts on the forum, where members indicated that there is no need to wait for the new car paint to cure, before detailing a car) Simply, Zaino cannot be applied over wax. Wax has oils etc, which provide the shine and putting oil on top of Zaino would defeat the purpose. The follow up point, is that there is no wax, with Zaino. Sal says that the Zaino polish contains no abrasives, solvents or silicones, and will provide more protection than any wax, and is a true paint protectant.
A couple of hints.
Make sure all water spots are removed. Zaino products will not remove the spots.
Zaino does not have solvents, which would take care of water spots.Use Z7 after claying.
When using the ZFX, the ZFX is mixed in with Show car polish - - he recommended Z5. Apply polish, let dry. Buff. Use z6 gloss enhancer in between polishes.
He promoted zfx, saying that
1. When mixed as per directions, you will not need to apply Z-1...
2. It will reduce the drying time, thus making the polish more user
friendly in damp environments...
3. It will increase the gloss factor and extend the durability level..
4. It will have an instant cure time, so you can immediately apply
multiple coats.. No more waiting between coats...
Enclosed is a more detailed version of Sal'sApplication Tips & Tricks.
1. The optimum results are achieved by using over wax free paint. (use Dawn)
2. If you are looking for the ultimate paint surface preparation. Use
Zaino Z-18 ClayBar first or skip to Step 3.
Zaino Z-18 ClayBay was designed to remove airborne contaminants,
paint overspray, water spots, rail dust, industrial fallout, diesel fuel
& catalytic converter residue and any other bonded surface contaminants
from paint. All cars even brand new factory paint has airborne
contaminants.... remember waterspots, bird droppings and bug guts if left on the
paint finish for any length of time. Will etch into the paint finish.
The ClayBar will also remove any store bought waxes....
I recommend you use my car wash (Z-7) as a lubricant for the ClayBar.
Just make sure to keep the surface area lubricated while using the ClayBar.
Use 1/2 capful of Z-7 Car Wash to 12 ounces of water. I use a spray bottle
for the mix. Shake it up and spray the area to be Clayed. Just make sure
to keep the surface area lubricated while using the ClayBar.
3. I would definitely recommend you remove the wax buildup on your
paint. Just use Liquid Dawn(hand dishwashing liquid) as a car wash. It
has a high alkaline content which cuts right thru carnauba wax,
paraffin, silicone oils, etc. This will get your paint finish squeeky
clean and wax free.
I don't advise making a habit of washing your car with Dawn. But for
this scenario it's fine. High alkaline products like Dawn are tough on
polishes. It will never harm the paint finish though. A car wash is made
specifically to clean without removing durable polishes. ALSO, Make sure
you remove any water spots, before you apply my products. Because Zaino
has no abrasives or harsh solvents it will not remove water spots or
stains. Z-18 ClayBar is great for removing any paint surface contaminants.
Re-wash the entire vehicle with Z-7 Car Wash immediately after the ClayBar
Cleaning Process.
4. The basic products you will need are Z-1 or the new ZFX, Z-2, Z-5(optional,
but highly recommended for swirls and especially on darker colors), Z-6 and Z-7.
If you are going to use the NEW ZFX flash cure system, then skip step 5 and read
the ZFX
instructions below..
5. Start with Z-1 Polish Lok as per directions. Z-1 does not need to
dry. Remember do not wipe off the Z-1 Polish Lok. Apply Z-5 or Z-2
directly over the Z-1. Z-5 is the Hot ticket for a swirl free, flawless
paint finish. Usually one to three coats will accomplish that.
6. Let Z-5 or Z-2 polish dry at least one hour. Please NOTE: Zaino Show
Car Polish works best at 60 degrees or higher. However, it can be
applied down to temperatures of 45 degrees. It just will take much, much
longer to dry. As much as two to three hours drying time is required if
the temperature is 50 degrees or below. Also, If the humidity is high.
Longer drying time is necessary. Humidity is a killer on the drying time
of Z-2 or Z-5. The moisture in the air hinders drying
time up to four times longer than normal. Sorry, but I can't help this.
When you try to remove Z-2 or Z-5 when it is still wet. All you're
accomplishing is moving it around. Kinda like reapplying it. Also you
need to use a LARGE White 100% Bath size towel (please refer to my Tips
& Tricks sheet on my web site for the proper towels to use) to remove
Z-2 or Z-5. Smaller towels will not work efficiently.
To test if Z-2 or Z-5 is dry and ready to be removed. Wipe your finger
on a hazed section. It should immediately come off and leave a crytal
clear finish. If it smears, it is still wet. You can leave Z-2 or Z-5 on
for hours or overnight if you desire. When it is not humid Z-2 will take
anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to dry. Depending on how heavy you
applied it. I have applied Z-2 in the Arizona sun and it dried in
approx. 3 to 5 minutes. I have also applied it in 38 degree temperature
and it took about 2 to 3 hours to dry. Be patient. It's worth it.
Different situations affect drying times. Also, remember you have Z-1
and Z-5 both on the car. That is two products that have to dry at one
time. Takes longer. Z-2 or Z-5 does not contain any oils and once it's
dry will never ever look smeary or feel greasy. If you remove Z-2 or Z-5
before it is thoroughly dry and get any smears. Just wipe down the car
with a damp cotton towel. This will remove any smears. Don't use Z-6
until you wipe the car down. If you'd like call me and I'll help you out
with more info!
7. After removal of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5. You should wait 24 hours if the
outside temperature is under 70 degrees and 6 hours if over 70 degrees,
before applying the next coat of Z-5 or Z-2.
8. Use Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray as per directions, between each and
every coat of Z-5 or Z-2. It really helps give a three dimensional look.
It's antistatic properties will reduce dust and dirt pickup by 60%. Z-6
can be used immediately after removing Z-2 or Z-5 or right before
applying the next coat of Z-2 or Z-5. Most of my customers prefer to use
Z-6 both, before and after Z-2 or Z-5 for that extra gloss boost.
9. You can switch to Z-2 as soon as you are happy with the way the paint
finish looks. Example, no more swirls, scratches etc. It's up to you.
Z-2 has higher optical properties than Z-5. You can go from Z-2 to Z-5
and then back to Z-2 as often as you want. Z-2 and Z-5 are 100%
compatible and interchangeable. You should always end with Z-2 as the
last coat because of its higher optics.
10. The number of coats of Z-2 or Z-5 is up to you. When you reach the
level of enhancement you like, normal maintenence with Z-7 Car Wash and
Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray is all that's necessary. Naturally apply a
coat of Z-2 or Z-5 whenever you feel it is required.
NOTE: One application of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5 will outlast anything in the
industry and is all you'll ever need for an average vehicle. However,
Multiple coats will achieve an even deeper, wetter-looking, ultra high
gloss. Plus higher paint protection. It's up to you....You be the
judge...
ALWAYS use only 100% Cotton towels. They must be Made in USA. Brand name
(Cannon or Fieldcrest) large white bath size towels. See my web site,
for the real truth on cotton towels and which ones to use.
ZFXâ„¢ Instructions
When used as directed, Zaino Bros' ZFXâ„¢ Show Car Polish accelerator
enables Zaino Show Car Polish to cure instantly and increases
durability. This exclusive product allows you to create a “Show Car
Finish†in a day and gives your car months of lasting protection.
This kit contains a 2ml vial of ZFXâ„¢ Show Car Polish accelerator mix and
four mixing bottles. The vial contains enough ZFXâ„¢ to prepare 16 ounces
of polish.
Pour one to two ounces of Show Car Polish (Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5) into a 2
ounce ZFX mixing bottle. For each ounce of polish, add 4 to 5 drops of
ZFXâ„¢ (no more than 10 drops for two full ounces), screw the cap back on,
and shake vigorously for 60 to 90 seconds.
ZFXâ„¢ enabled polish must be applied to a clean car. Follow these easy
steps:
1. Apply Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFXâ„¢ with a 100% terry cloth
applicator. Use the polish sparingly. A small amount goes a long way,
and you will be applying multiple coats.
2. Squirt a dime size dab of polish on your applicator and rub it into
your paint using back and forth hand motions.
3. Allow the polish the haze (dry) for 30 minutes.
4. Buff off the Show Car Polish residue with a high quality, 100% cotton
detailing towel.
You're now ready to apply your next coat of Zaino Show Car Polish
enabled with ZFXâ„¢. There's no need to wait. Simply follow steps 1
through 4 again. Use a fresh buffing towel with each coat. Apply no
more than three coats of Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFXâ„¢ in a 24
hour period. fro optimum results use enable ZFX withing 6 hours of
mixing
When you are finished polishing, wash mixing bottle inside and out with
a heavy concentration of liquid dishwashing detergen and rinse
thoroughlyt. The ZFXâ„¢ mixing bottles cannot be reused if the polish
remains in the bottle for more than 12 hours. After 12 hours, it is not
possible to remove the ZFXâ„¢ accelerator from the mixing bottles. Throw
the mixing bottle and any unused polish contents away after 12 hours.
With the overwhelming recommendations for Zaino Brother products, I wrote the company for some clarifications on the use of their products. It appears the two "front-runners" on products on the Autopia website was Klasse and Zaino. I haven't decided yet which to use. I want what is easier. This is more involved than some people might want. But, if you look through the autopia website, many of the recommended exterior detailing processes take several steps, and have their nuances. I remember the days of blue coral. I thought it was so good, just because it was darn hard to get off the car.
Below are the directions I received from Sal Zaino. I have not used the products, and followed up simply because of the recommendations throughout this forum, as well as the BMW forums.
First, Sal says to wash the new car with Dawn, to remove the existing wax.( In terms of what to do with a new car, there are other posts on the forum, where members indicated that there is no need to wait for the new car paint to cure, before detailing a car) Simply, Zaino cannot be applied over wax. Wax has oils etc, which provide the shine and putting oil on top of Zaino would defeat the purpose. The follow up point, is that there is no wax, with Zaino. Sal says that the Zaino polish contains no abrasives, solvents or silicones, and will provide more protection than any wax, and is a true paint protectant.
A couple of hints.
Make sure all water spots are removed. Zaino products will not remove the spots.
Zaino does not have solvents, which would take care of water spots.Use Z7 after claying.
When using the ZFX, the ZFX is mixed in with Show car polish - - he recommended Z5. Apply polish, let dry. Buff. Use z6 gloss enhancer in between polishes.
He promoted zfx, saying that
1. When mixed as per directions, you will not need to apply Z-1...
2. It will reduce the drying time, thus making the polish more user
friendly in damp environments...
3. It will increase the gloss factor and extend the durability level..
4. It will have an instant cure time, so you can immediately apply
multiple coats.. No more waiting between coats...
Enclosed is a more detailed version of Sal'sApplication Tips & Tricks.
1. The optimum results are achieved by using over wax free paint. (use Dawn)
2. If you are looking for the ultimate paint surface preparation. Use
Zaino Z-18 ClayBar first or skip to Step 3.
Zaino Z-18 ClayBay was designed to remove airborne contaminants,
paint overspray, water spots, rail dust, industrial fallout, diesel fuel
& catalytic converter residue and any other bonded surface contaminants
from paint. All cars even brand new factory paint has airborne
contaminants.... remember waterspots, bird droppings and bug guts if left on the
paint finish for any length of time. Will etch into the paint finish.
The ClayBar will also remove any store bought waxes....
I recommend you use my car wash (Z-7) as a lubricant for the ClayBar.
Just make sure to keep the surface area lubricated while using the ClayBar.
Use 1/2 capful of Z-7 Car Wash to 12 ounces of water. I use a spray bottle
for the mix. Shake it up and spray the area to be Clayed. Just make sure
to keep the surface area lubricated while using the ClayBar.
3. I would definitely recommend you remove the wax buildup on your
paint. Just use Liquid Dawn(hand dishwashing liquid) as a car wash. It
has a high alkaline content which cuts right thru carnauba wax,
paraffin, silicone oils, etc. This will get your paint finish squeeky
clean and wax free.
I don't advise making a habit of washing your car with Dawn. But for
this scenario it's fine. High alkaline products like Dawn are tough on
polishes. It will never harm the paint finish though. A car wash is made
specifically to clean without removing durable polishes. ALSO, Make sure
you remove any water spots, before you apply my products. Because Zaino
has no abrasives or harsh solvents it will not remove water spots or
stains. Z-18 ClayBar is great for removing any paint surface contaminants.
Re-wash the entire vehicle with Z-7 Car Wash immediately after the ClayBar
Cleaning Process.
4. The basic products you will need are Z-1 or the new ZFX, Z-2, Z-5(optional,
but highly recommended for swirls and especially on darker colors), Z-6 and Z-7.
If you are going to use the NEW ZFX flash cure system, then skip step 5 and read
the ZFX
instructions below..
5. Start with Z-1 Polish Lok as per directions. Z-1 does not need to
dry. Remember do not wipe off the Z-1 Polish Lok. Apply Z-5 or Z-2
directly over the Z-1. Z-5 is the Hot ticket for a swirl free, flawless
paint finish. Usually one to three coats will accomplish that.
6. Let Z-5 or Z-2 polish dry at least one hour. Please NOTE: Zaino Show
Car Polish works best at 60 degrees or higher. However, it can be
applied down to temperatures of 45 degrees. It just will take much, much
longer to dry. As much as two to three hours drying time is required if
the temperature is 50 degrees or below. Also, If the humidity is high.
Longer drying time is necessary. Humidity is a killer on the drying time
of Z-2 or Z-5. The moisture in the air hinders drying
time up to four times longer than normal. Sorry, but I can't help this.
When you try to remove Z-2 or Z-5 when it is still wet. All you're
accomplishing is moving it around. Kinda like reapplying it. Also you
need to use a LARGE White 100% Bath size towel (please refer to my Tips
& Tricks sheet on my web site for the proper towels to use) to remove
Z-2 or Z-5. Smaller towels will not work efficiently.
To test if Z-2 or Z-5 is dry and ready to be removed. Wipe your finger
on a hazed section. It should immediately come off and leave a crytal
clear finish. If it smears, it is still wet. You can leave Z-2 or Z-5 on
for hours or overnight if you desire. When it is not humid Z-2 will take
anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to dry. Depending on how heavy you
applied it. I have applied Z-2 in the Arizona sun and it dried in
approx. 3 to 5 minutes. I have also applied it in 38 degree temperature
and it took about 2 to 3 hours to dry. Be patient. It's worth it.
Different situations affect drying times. Also, remember you have Z-1
and Z-5 both on the car. That is two products that have to dry at one
time. Takes longer. Z-2 or Z-5 does not contain any oils and once it's
dry will never ever look smeary or feel greasy. If you remove Z-2 or Z-5
before it is thoroughly dry and get any smears. Just wipe down the car
with a damp cotton towel. This will remove any smears. Don't use Z-6
until you wipe the car down. If you'd like call me and I'll help you out
with more info!
7. After removal of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5. You should wait 24 hours if the
outside temperature is under 70 degrees and 6 hours if over 70 degrees,
before applying the next coat of Z-5 or Z-2.
8. Use Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray as per directions, between each and
every coat of Z-5 or Z-2. It really helps give a three dimensional look.
It's antistatic properties will reduce dust and dirt pickup by 60%. Z-6
can be used immediately after removing Z-2 or Z-5 or right before
applying the next coat of Z-2 or Z-5. Most of my customers prefer to use
Z-6 both, before and after Z-2 or Z-5 for that extra gloss boost.
9. You can switch to Z-2 as soon as you are happy with the way the paint
finish looks. Example, no more swirls, scratches etc. It's up to you.
Z-2 has higher optical properties than Z-5. You can go from Z-2 to Z-5
and then back to Z-2 as often as you want. Z-2 and Z-5 are 100%
compatible and interchangeable. You should always end with Z-2 as the
last coat because of its higher optics.
10. The number of coats of Z-2 or Z-5 is up to you. When you reach the
level of enhancement you like, normal maintenence with Z-7 Car Wash and
Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray is all that's necessary. Naturally apply a
coat of Z-2 or Z-5 whenever you feel it is required.
NOTE: One application of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5 will outlast anything in the
industry and is all you'll ever need for an average vehicle. However,
Multiple coats will achieve an even deeper, wetter-looking, ultra high
gloss. Plus higher paint protection. It's up to you....You be the
judge...
ALWAYS use only 100% Cotton towels. They must be Made in USA. Brand name
(Cannon or Fieldcrest) large white bath size towels. See my web site,
for the real truth on cotton towels and which ones to use.
ZFXâ„¢ Instructions
When used as directed, Zaino Bros' ZFXâ„¢ Show Car Polish accelerator
enables Zaino Show Car Polish to cure instantly and increases
durability. This exclusive product allows you to create a “Show Car
Finish†in a day and gives your car months of lasting protection.
This kit contains a 2ml vial of ZFXâ„¢ Show Car Polish accelerator mix and
four mixing bottles. The vial contains enough ZFXâ„¢ to prepare 16 ounces
of polish.
Pour one to two ounces of Show Car Polish (Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5) into a 2
ounce ZFX mixing bottle. For each ounce of polish, add 4 to 5 drops of
ZFXâ„¢ (no more than 10 drops for two full ounces), screw the cap back on,
and shake vigorously for 60 to 90 seconds.
ZFXâ„¢ enabled polish must be applied to a clean car. Follow these easy
steps:
1. Apply Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFXâ„¢ with a 100% terry cloth
applicator. Use the polish sparingly. A small amount goes a long way,
and you will be applying multiple coats.
2. Squirt a dime size dab of polish on your applicator and rub it into
your paint using back and forth hand motions.
3. Allow the polish the haze (dry) for 30 minutes.
4. Buff off the Show Car Polish residue with a high quality, 100% cotton
detailing towel.
You're now ready to apply your next coat of Zaino Show Car Polish
enabled with ZFXâ„¢. There's no need to wait. Simply follow steps 1
through 4 again. Use a fresh buffing towel with each coat. Apply no
more than three coats of Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFXâ„¢ in a 24
hour period. fro optimum results use enable ZFX withing 6 hours of
mixing
When you are finished polishing, wash mixing bottle inside and out with
a heavy concentration of liquid dishwashing detergen and rinse
thoroughlyt. The ZFXâ„¢ mixing bottles cannot be reused if the polish
remains in the bottle for more than 12 hours. After 12 hours, it is not
possible to remove the ZFXâ„¢ accelerator from the mixing bottles. Throw
the mixing bottle and any unused polish contents away after 12 hours.
11/22/04, 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by 68fuelinjected@November 22, 2004, 7:05 AM
Where can I get the Zaino product in Birmingham, AL. I know I can order it own line, but would like to see a local dealer
Where can I get the Zaino product in Birmingham, AL. I know I can order it own line, but would like to see a local dealer
11/22/04, 10:36 AM
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This stuff is the best!!! Take a plastic shopping bag and put your hand in it. Then run it down your paint job.....very bumpy, even if it's a brand new car. Okay, now use the ZAINO's kit and repeat the plastic bag job.........
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no-brainer!!!!!!!!
Beeeeeeeeeeeee YEW TEE FOOL...... for you mid westerners
Californians....... Sweet
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no-brainer!!!!!!!!
Beeeeeeeeeeeee YEW TEE FOOL...... for you mid westerners
Californians....... Sweet
11/22/04, 10:59 AM
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How long does it take to do the whole process? I use NXT and it is real quick and offers an amazing shine. I would consider switching to Zaino if it was as easy to use as NXT.
11/22/04, 11:38 AM
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NXT is much quicker. With Zaino or Klasse, you will be inclined to put layers on. I have done the wash, clay, polish and NXT; and I get the feeling that going to the other two will require more time
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lwing18 @ November 22, 2004, 11:41 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
NXT is much quicker. With Zaino or Klasse, you will be inclined to put layers on. I have done the wash, clay, polish and NXT; and I get the feeling that going to the other two will require more time
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I couldn't agree more. I just switched to NXT and I'm very impressed with its results.
NXT is much quicker. With Zaino or Klasse, you will be inclined to put layers on. I have done the wash, clay, polish and NXT; and I get the feeling that going to the other two will require more time
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I couldn't agree more. I just switched to NXT and I'm very impressed with its results.
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