Wax on and Wax off!
 

Ok so whats the best wax to use on a black car? Or should I say, which one doesnt leave that awful haze aftwards?:doh:

Clay it, then use some Collonite 845. Others will swear by Zaino, but I've never used it.

I didnt know "claying" had anything to do with whether or not the wax hazes. Clay to my understand was used only when your finish feels rough to the touch. What color car do you own?

It really doesn't, but if you're going to do a proper clean up of the car, clay, polish (if necessary), then wax/seal to get the best results possible.

I own a gray car, but I detail on the side.

I was told by the body shop that just repainted my (keyed) fender that the only reason to use clay is to remove something on the finish. After a few years it could need it but not necessarily.

He felt my finish (2 yrs old, garaged most of the time) and didn't feel anything and said just to wax it.

But the claybar removes the contaminates that you can't see. Like rail dust and such. I'm a firm believer in it now. Just claybar a new vehicle and look at what's in the clay after you do it.

But what wax doesnt haze on a black car?

Can you use it too much so that after so many years you've actually removed to much Clearcoat?

PS Gary: the GT500 you were looking at. One reason my bill was $1300 is because although they can feather the paint in over a small area where the key marks were, the entire part (qtr panel) has to be clearcoated because you can't feather that in or do it in sections.

I don't think I'm talking about haze. Just getting the things that are stuck in the clear coat where they don't belong, out of there. Trying to make the paint job last a full lifetime. It doesn't hurt. And polish is important also in my opinion to give that finish the look of depth. It makes it pop. The wax is just a protector. It's an added step, but I also think its important.

Gotcha. That bumper cover needed replacing. So it would have required a new part, plus paint, plus clear coat.

I don't think clay hurts the clear coat. It acts kind of like silly puddy. It pulls the stuff out of the clear coat, but not the clear coat. Seven is almost three years old now and I've only done it twice. Once when I finally discovered the clay bar after about a year, and then last year after it was exposed to sap under a tree. I think it was a sumack tree. I have no idea.

Off topic: Gary is your car named Seven from George on Seinfeld?

Yes and no.

It is but that's not the only reason. I bought the car on 7/7/07. And while I would have named a child Seven like George, my wife would not ever let me.

So Seven it is.


BTW the Raptor is named El Diablo. Also a Seinfeld reference. :wink:

That's why he is now Sancho... ;)

Exactly. If you're going to do it right, you gotta prep the paint or you're half-assing the job.

Also, not sure what you mean by "haze". Any quality wax will go on and come off easy and should leave no residue (a little dust, but that's normal).

:lol:

"Gotta support the team." :nice:

Lol you gotta love Puddy

I use good old Meguiars "Gold Class" wax on my car and my black Lightning and for the original paint on the Lightning it comes out looking absolutely fantastic.

http://haloclub.com/albums/album02/L...piece_003a.jpg

Like the others though, I don't know what "haze" you are referring to unless you ar not getting all the excess wax off the car when you buff it off.

Turtle Wax Black Box. Everything in it is black. I use it on the Bullitt and FX4 (both are black), it's the only Turtle Wax product I actually like.

Ditto. My best friend had a black cobra that the paint wasn't the best on and the black box worked amazing on it! He used it on his F-150 as well with the same results.

Got another buddy with a black cobra that did the same thing. I didn't see the results, but I was told that it looked like a different car when they were done.