Ponies on The Run (Again)
4/13/08, 10:44 AM
Here's what it looks like..
Glad we weren't the only ones..
A note about the feed line - Be very careful when tightening the line, as this is what can result. This is the sprayer nozzle that sprays oil onto the gears inside the blower. It comes pre-installed, but it is VERY fragile.
4/13/08, 10:51 AM
Thanks George, but that's the problem, I find reference pics and write-ups all over the net for the SN95's, but zilch for the 197's.
I tell you, this is the EXACT reason why I started all my 'how-to's', cuz I can't find squat on the internet and the mfg's instructions blow.
I tell you, this is the EXACT reason why I started all my 'how-to's', cuz I can't find squat on the internet and the mfg's instructions blow.
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4/13/08, 10:53 AM
If Hector doesn't figure it out on his own today, I'll have him talk to the guys at Brenspeed in the morning.
4/13/08, 12:02 PM
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4/13/08, 12:30 PM
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Bill, I wish I could add something to help, but I am clueless. Your problems are making me nervous... stop running into issues, OK 
Kyle
Something about a power curve that goes straight up just hits me the right way. I have been following that thread and the one here in GT mods. What's not to love, more efficient and more power. Yup, it gets my
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Something about a power curve that goes straight up just hits me the right way. I have been following that thread and the one here in GT mods. What's not to love, more efficient and more power. Yup, it gets my
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4/13/08, 12:46 PM
NTTAWWT
Couldn't get a replacement fitting today. 
Hector had his hand on one (literally) at Brothers Performance in Corona, but they didn't want to seperate the kit and sell it to him; he even offered them $100 cash!
No option but to wait til Monday and see if I can pick one up straight from Vortech in Oxnard (2 hour drive).
To top things off, I scratched my head trying to understand KB's crappy instructions on how to hook up the Boost-A-Pump. They have 2 crappy B&W pics of a SN95 of it being located 'somewhere' in the trunk next to the fuel pump inertia cut-off switch. Problem is, our cut-off switch in the S197 is located at the Drivers side kick panel!
Only good thing today is the gauges are coming together.
This day was a waste.
Busted cheap oversea brass fitting
Vortech proprietary fitting.. of course.
Gauge pod teaser
I wasn't going to post this, but meh... camcorder recording of the actual 1st start-up.
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Hector had his hand on one (literally) at Brothers Performance in Corona, but they didn't want to seperate the kit and sell it to him; he even offered them $100 cash!
No option but to wait til Monday and see if I can pick one up straight from Vortech in Oxnard (2 hour drive).
To top things off, I scratched my head trying to understand KB's crappy instructions on how to hook up the Boost-A-Pump. They have 2 crappy B&W pics of a SN95 of it being located 'somewhere' in the trunk next to the fuel pump inertia cut-off switch. Problem is, our cut-off switch in the S197 is located at the Drivers side kick panel!
Only good thing today is the gauges are coming together.
This day was a waste.
Busted cheap oversea brass fitting
Vortech proprietary fitting.. of course.
Gauge pod teaser
I wasn't going to post this, but meh... camcorder recording of the actual 1st start-up.
link
Well, when you get the replacement anyway
4/13/08, 03:41 PM
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Sorry to hear about your troubles Bill. It seems like we've both been dealing with our own sets of problems. Lets just think about this time next week when we're boosted. Hah
And it looks like I'm finalizing the deal on my spoiler delete trunk. I should know by today. Hopefully I can have the guy ship monday and get it to install after the blower gets done this week. That would be almost too perfect
HahAnd it looks like I'm finalizing the deal on my spoiler delete trunk. I should know by today. Hopefully I can have the guy ship monday and get it to install after the blower gets done this week. That would be almost too perfect
4/13/08, 07:52 PM
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Sorry about the fitting, Bill... I've been reading, but no time to reply. Why do you guys need a BAP? We watched on the Predator and my stock fuel pump's duty cycle never went over 25%. So, with my 10 psi and 560 HP, I'm no where near to starving for fuel.
Just curious...
Just curious...
4/13/08, 07:57 PM
Tomorrow should be better for me, I should know exactly where I stand as far as the completion date. I'll be sure to take some pics of my day trip to the Vortech facility. Heck, maybe they'll give me a tour!
I'll maybe host an install/'last minute cleaning before the show' party next Saturday. Hopefully will be able to get the D-Specs and Eibach Pros in that day.
Rumor has it that Jed may grill up some carne asada tacos and also bring a Heineken mini-keg!
Ray: As soon as I get the Ultralites off, we can plan on your installs. I already have the Steeda UDP's ready to go for you.
George: Congrats on the GMS CAI sale!
Jon: How's the status of your Vortech install?
I'll maybe host an install/'last minute cleaning before the show' party next Saturday. Hopefully will be able to get the D-Specs and Eibach Pros in that day.
Rumor has it that Jed may grill up some carne asada tacos and also bring a Heineken mini-keg!
Ray: As soon as I get the Ultralites off, we can plan on your installs. I already have the Steeda UDP's ready to go for you.
George: Congrats on the GMS CAI sale!
Jon: How's the status of your Vortech install?
4/13/08, 07:59 PM
Sorry about the fitting, Bill... I've been reading, but no time to reply. Why do you guys need a BAP? We watched on the Predator and my stock fuel pump's duty cycle never went over 25%. So, with my 10 psi and 560 HP, I'm no where near to starving for fuel.
Just curious...
Just curious...
I know my little 'issue' is nothing compared to your whole tune issue. Guess I should be happy and fortunate about that.
4/13/08, 08:03 PM
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Your fitting issue will seem minor and no big deal a couple weeks from now. At least you know the problem. My biggest issue was trying to figure out what was wrong.
Last edited by 89Trooper; 4/13/08 at 08:05 PM.
4/13/08, 08:12 PM
And you show no fuel starvation on the dyno? I read elsewhere that the stock pump farts out at around 4200 rpm's and the A/F shoots up into a lean condition visible on the dyno run report.
4/13/08, 08:14 PM
4/13/08, 08:15 PM
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Tomorrow should be better for me, I should know exactly where I stand as far as the completion date. I'll be sure to take some pics of my day trip to the Vortech facility. Heck, maybe they'll give me a tour!
I'll maybe host an install/'last minute cleaning before the show' party next Saturday. Hopefully will be able to get the D-Specs and Eibach Pros in that day.
Rumor has it that Jed may grill up some carne asada tacos and also bring a Heineken mini-keg!
Ray: As soon as I get the Ultralites off, we can plan on your installs. I already have the Steeda UDP's ready to go for you.
George: Congrats on the GMS CAI sale!
Jon: How's the status of your Vortech install?
I'll maybe host an install/'last minute cleaning before the show' party next Saturday. Hopefully will be able to get the D-Specs and Eibach Pros in that day.
Rumor has it that Jed may grill up some carne asada tacos and also bring a Heineken mini-keg!
Ray: As soon as I get the Ultralites off, we can plan on your installs. I already have the Steeda UDP's ready to go for you.
George: Congrats on the GMS CAI sale!
Jon: How's the status of your Vortech install?
Sounds good, Jed can cook!!
4/13/08, 08:24 PM
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Never gets leaner than 12:1... mostly around 11.5:1 through the entire RPM range.
At 4200 it technically starts to get leaner... but not what I would consider a "lean condition" by any means.
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4/13/08, 08:30 PM
I don't doubt you dyno chart one bit, I just don't understand when larger pumps or BAPs are needed. Theoretically, I know I can drive all day at less than 80-90% throttle without a BAP, just not sure what'll happen when I drop the hammer. Guess that's what my Stoich A/F gauge is for.
4/13/08, 08:33 PM
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Man, I don't get it..
I don't doubt you dyno chart one bit, I just don't understand when larger pumps or BAPs are needed. Theoretically, I know I can drive all day at less than 80-90% throttle without a BAP, just not sure what'll happen when I drop the hammer. Guess that's what my Stoich A/F gauge is for.
I don't doubt you dyno chart one bit, I just don't understand when larger pumps or BAPs are needed. Theoretically, I know I can drive all day at less than 80-90% throttle without a BAP, just not sure what'll happen when I drop the hammer. Guess that's what my Stoich A/F gauge is for.
I can drive 60 miles round trip to work and never even pressurize the engine! But that chart was definitely showing the hammer dropped:
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...t=DSCN6854.flv
We verified A/F ratio on the Predator and it was always around 11.7:1 on the street at WOT.
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