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Old 4/13/08, 10:23 AM
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Hey Bill,
I guess your not the only one with a problem with the brass fitting.....


A note about the feed line - Be very careful when tightening the line, as this is what can result. This is the sprayer nozzle that sprays oil onto the gears inside the blower. It comes pre-installed, but it is VERY fragile.
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Old 4/13/08, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC0341 View Post
That was a fuel pump upgrade of some sorts, not a BAP install.

Here's what it looks like..




Glad we weren't the only ones..
A note about the feed line - Be very careful when tightening the line, as this is what can result. This is the sprayer nozzle that sprays oil onto the gears inside the blower. It comes pre-installed, but it is VERY fragile.
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Old 4/13/08, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC0341 View Post
here's a few more links that may help
Thanks George, but that's the problem, I find reference pics and write-ups all over the net for the SN95's, but zilch for the 197's.

I tell you, this is the EXACT reason why I started all my 'how-to's', cuz I can't find squat on the internet and the mfg's instructions blow.

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Originally Posted by tom281 View Post
Sorry Bill, no I don't know and I now have the GT500 fuel system which is no help to you.

Brenspeed will be open at 8am tomorrow morning, which is like 5am your time I believe.
Thanks Tom.

If Hector doesn't figure it out on his own today, I'll have him talk to the guys at Brenspeed in the morning.
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Bill I hope everything gets better fast.
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Nice avatar by the way
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Well vortech should have that part since its a "fragile item"
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Old 4/13/08, 12:30 PM
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Bill, I wish I could add something to help, but I am clueless. Your problems are making me nervous... stop running into issues, OK




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Something about a power curve that goes straight up just hits me the right way. I have been following that thread and the one here in GT mods. What's not to love, more efficient and more power. Yup, it gets my approval
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Originally Posted by TacoBill View Post
Couldn't get a replacement fitting today.
Hector had his hand on one (literally) at Brothers Performance in Corona, but they didn't want to seperate the kit and sell it to him; he even offered them $100 cash!

No option but to wait til Monday and see if I can pick one up straight from Vortech in Oxnard (2 hour drive).

To top things off, I scratched my head trying to understand KB's crappy instructions on how to hook up the Boost-A-Pump. They have 2 crappy B&W pics of a SN95 of it being located 'somewhere' in the trunk next to the fuel pump inertia cut-off switch. Problem is, our cut-off switch in the S197 is located at the Drivers side kick panel!

Only good thing today is the gauges are coming together.

This day was a waste.


Busted cheap oversea brass fitting


Vortech proprietary fitting.. of course.



Gauge pod teaser



I wasn't going to post this, but meh... camcorder recording of the actual 1st start-up.
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what a piece of junk! Crappy engineering, that's what that is, and yes your car is now a bad mfer!Well, when you get the replacement anyway

Originally Posted by JedCranium View Post
Is this our stock fuel pump? It looks like something out of C3PO

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thats what I was thinking

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holy cow! Those numbers with stock everything else
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Sorry to hear about your troubles Bill. It seems like we've both been dealing with our own sets of problems. Lets just think about this time next week when we're boosted. Hah

And it looks like I'm finalizing the deal on my spoiler delete trunk. I should know by today. Hopefully I can have the guy ship monday and get it to install after the blower gets done this week. That would be almost too perfect

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Sorry about the fitting, Bill... I've been reading, but no time to reply. Why do you guys need a BAP? We watched on the Predator and my stock fuel pump's duty cycle never went over 25%. So, with my 10 psi and 560 HP, I'm no where near to starving for fuel.

Just curious...
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Tomorrow should be better for me, I should know exactly where I stand as far as the completion date. I'll be sure to take some pics of my day trip to the Vortech facility. Heck, maybe they'll give me a tour!

I'll maybe host an install/'last minute cleaning before the show' party next Saturday. Hopefully will be able to get the D-Specs and Eibach Pros in that day.
Rumor has it that Jed may grill up some carne asada tacos and also bring a Heineken mini-keg!

Ray: As soon as I get the Ultralites off, we can plan on your installs. I already have the Steeda UDP's ready to go for you.

George: Congrats on the GMS CAI sale!

Jon: How's the status of your Vortech install?
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
Sorry about the fitting, Bill... I've been reading, but no time to reply. Why do you guys need a BAP? We watched on the Predator and my stock fuel pump's duty cycle never went over 25%. So, with my 10 psi and 560 HP, I'm no where near to starving for fuel.

Just curious...
Very interesting Tom... I'm guessing with my new 39# injectors, the stock fuel pump pressure (to the rails) may not support a constant 39 pounds?

I know my little 'issue' is nothing compared to your whole tune issue. Guess I should be happy and fortunate about that.
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Originally Posted by TacoBill View Post
Very interesting Tom... I'm guessing with my new 39# injectors, the stock fuel pump pressure (to the rails) may not support a constant 39 pounds?

I know my little 'issue' is nothing compared to your whole tune issue. Guess I should be happy and fortunate about that.
I have 39 pound injectors now, too... blue ones, right?

Ponies on The Run (Again)-dscn6681.jpg

Your fitting issue will seem minor and no big deal a couple weeks from now. At least you know the problem. My biggest issue was trying to figure out what was wrong.

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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
I have 39 pound injectors now, too... blue ones, right?

Your fitting issue will seem minor and no big deal a couple weeks from now. At least you know the problem. My biggest issue was trying to figure out what was wrong.
Yup, same blue FRPP 39# Cobra injectors.

And you show no fuel starvation on the dyno? I read elsewhere that the stock pump farts out at around 4200 rpm's and the A/F shoots up into a lean condition visible on the dyno run report.
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
Your fitting issue will seem minor and no big deal a couple weeks from now. At least you know the problem. My biggest issue was trying to figure out what was wrong.
I know, it's just little problems like this that bug me to no end, especially with a show coming up.
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Originally Posted by TacoBill View Post
Tomorrow should be better for me, I should know exactly where I stand as far as the completion date. I'll be sure to take some pics of my day trip to the Vortech facility. Heck, maybe they'll give me a tour!

I'll maybe host an install/'last minute cleaning before the show' party next Saturday. Hopefully will be able to get the D-Specs and Eibach Pros in that day.
Rumor has it that Jed may grill up some carne asada tacos and also bring a Heineken mini-keg!

Ray: As soon as I get the Ultralites off, we can plan on your installs. I already have the Steeda UDP's ready to go for you.

George: Congrats on the GMS CAI sale!

Jon: How's the status of your Vortech install?
Thanks!!

Sounds good, Jed can cook!!
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Originally Posted by TacoBill View Post
Yup, same blue FRPP 39# Cobra injectors.

And you show no fuel starvation on the dyno? I read elsewhere that the stock pump farts out at around 4200 rpm's and the A/F shoots up into a lean condition visible on the dyno run report.
No fuel starvation:

Ponies on The Run (Again)-trickpro3.jpg

Never gets leaner than 12:1... mostly around 11.5:1 through the entire RPM range.

At 4200 it technically starts to get leaner... but not what I would consider a "lean condition" by any means.

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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
No fuel starvation:

Never gets leaner than 12:1... mostly around 11.5:1 through the entire RPM range.
Man, I don't get it..

I don't doubt you dyno chart one bit, I just don't understand when larger pumps or BAPs are needed. Theoretically, I know I can drive all day at less than 80-90% throttle without a BAP, just not sure what'll happen when I drop the hammer. Guess that's what my Stoich A/F gauge is for.
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