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Old 5/12/07, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
Glad you like the gears, Bill!

Here's what I've been doing today. I backed the car into the garage at 9:30am, and here's how it looked at 11:30am:

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I broke down and bought that hoist. Only $149 for a 2 ton.

The clutch definitely was slipping, with no signs of oil:

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I was afraid oil or transmission fluid was getting to the clutch somehow making it slip, but it was just pure power.

Which makes much more sense now. The dyno hit about 358 Torque at the flywheel on the first set of dyno runs... and 351 Torque at the flywheel on the second dyno run. 350 was the max torque for that ZOOM clutch kit. When it hits it limit, something is going to give - in this case, the clutch. The clutch I'm ordering is good to 520 ft-lbs of torque at the flywheel. The transmission will fall apart before then!
it sounds like you're getting into the area where you might start chasing the drivetrain's weak link. After enough power there is always one somewhere. How are the u-joints & driveshaft ?? It's a bummer when you start busting those with frequency.
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it sounds like you're getting into the area where you might start chasing the drivetrain's weak link. After enough power there is always one somewhere. How are the u-joints & driveshaft ?? It's a bummer when you start busting those with frequency.
Brand new (relatively) aluminum driveshaft with HD U-joints. Rear-end is brand new, axles are HD and brand new. Transmission will be the next to go. But on a dyno, it's 1:1 and a straight shot through the transmission. I think it will handle the dyno a few times and after that it will be back to driving it around to car shows. As long as I don't put on slicks I think I'll be ok.

Thinking back, after I started finding more power, I no longer could floor it in 2nd gear at 45 MPH and break the tires loose. The clutch would slip enough until the power would start getting to the tires. So the clutch was "peeling out" and not the tires.
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Brand new (relatively) aluminum driveshaft with HD U-joints. Rear-end is brand new, axles are HD and brand new. Transmission will be the next to go. But on a dyno, it's 1:1 and a straight shot through the transmission. I think it will handle the dyno a few times and after that it will be back to driving it around to car shows. As long as I don't put on slicks I think I'll be ok.

Thinking back, after I started finding more power, I no longer could floor it in 2nd gear at 45 MPH and break the tires loose. The clutch would slip enough until the power would start getting to the tires. So the clutch was "peeling out" and not the tires.
Gee whiz, Tom, put the slicks on and a parts catcher underneath the car. That way you'll know for sure.
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Installed my exhaust cutouts today. Being outside all day I got a few comments on the car. One dude said nice wheels, he thought the old bullits were too plain for the car. Another asked what year it was, a 67 or so, and was stunned when I told him it was an 05.

And a jerky cop pulled up and said "you should put a nice chevy engine in there" I told him no way, ford only. He drove off in his ford-powered crown vic


Got the pics up here: http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?p=915264
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Old 5/12/07, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
Glad you like the gears, Bill!

I broke down and bought that hoist. Only $149 for a 2 ton.

The clutch definitely was slipping, with no signs of oil:
Gears are awesome, Tom!
Because of the new ratio, I'm out of the drone rpm on the highway and I'm actually shifting into 4th in the city. Before, I rarely shifted above 3rd.

Leo couldn't make it down today, so his 4.10 demo will have to wait til a week or two. I think he's avoiding the test ride, because once he get's a taste of it, I can see at least 3.73's in his near future!


On your 89, man!, you sure didn't waste any time pulling the engine out.

That's a cool looking hoist too. Hopefully this new clutch that you're installing will put an end to this slipping issue. Then we can really see what kind of numbers she'll put down.



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what does being subscribed to a thread do ?? I know I've subsribed to a couple but it really hasn't benefitted me in any way that I can tell.

Welp, I'm off to work on my pony. Magnaflows are coming off and the Stingers are going back on. Dad gives me a hard time about it all. It's only the fourth time I've messed with the exhaust. Good thing is someone local is buying the Magnaflows so I can get my SSE Ducktail !!
I subscribe to this thread. I get an e-mail anytime a new post has been added. Luckily, when it's a posting frenzy, it only sends me one notification.

Glad to hear you found a buyer for the Magnaflows. Did you already swap back in the Stingers? Hope the Magnaflow mid-pipes terminated (at least close to) where the OEM ones ended.



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Installed my exhaust cutouts today.
Dang Ben! Did the whole mod out in the street, huh?

Now go shoot a video of what it sounds like running through the cutoffs.
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Chris and I shot some 'in-car' videos today.

The hammer has officially dropped.

Will post the vids soon.
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Because of the new ratio, I'm out of the drone rpm on the highway.

Bill, what is your RPM now at 60mph in 5th?
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Because of the new ratio, I'm out of the drone rpm on the highway.

Bill, what is your RPM now at 60mph in 5th?
2000 rpm's.
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W.T.F. ?? I had a pretty good post that I swear I submitted a couple of hours ago. I have no idea what happened. *good cough medicine* Vicadin is your(or my) pal...

Anywho.

Tom, glad to see that the clutch should solve your issue. With a clutch like that it should be putting serious power down. Dyno numbers should come way up.


Sold the Magnaflows and will most likely deliver them tomorrow. Which is good 'cause my baby's back. That sweet rumble of the stingers, did I ever miss that.

Bill, you are such a tease. I cannot wait to see the vid of you shredding the tires. Very glad to hear that you are happy with them.
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Bill, you are such a tease. I cannot wait to see the vid of you shredding the tires. Very glad to hear that you are happy with them.
For public release... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aOhtdONHI

Sorry for the shakey capture, Chris had a heck of a time holding the camera steady during the acceleration takes.

At 3:05, the 1st gear roll from 20mph is unreal!

Note: I purposely didn't smoke the rears at launch, otherwise they would've spun well into 3rd.
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Sold the Magnaflows and will most likely deliver them tomorrow. Which is good 'cause my baby's back. That sweet rumble of the stingers, did I ever miss that.
One good thing about my shifter install is the extra sound of the exhaust... I really love the sound... Now if I could just keep that and bet rid of the tranny and road noise!
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I took this piece of crap out this morning:

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Look how small it is! It's leaking everywhere and the synchros are shot. I don't want to spend the money, but with the engine out it makes sense to replace it now.

I'm going to get a Ford Racing HD World Class T5. Everything, including the transmission, clutch, pressure plate, throw-out bearing, tranny fluid, and a few other things will be right around $1800. Really not too bad. Can you imagine the cost if I had a shop do it??

I will get some of that back, because I'll put the used T5 on eBay. Somebody will buy it for a rebuild. Or, I could also spend the money for a rebuild kit... rebuild it... then sell it. Then I can learn how it all works inside.
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Would you guys even consider this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUSTA...16394946QQrdZ1

Ford Racing offers no warranty, and this place has a 12-month unlimited warranty. Also, all transmission are dyno-tested.

Is that $300 back from the $775?? That's only $475... $900 less than one from Summit!
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How many miles did it take you to kill that tranny?
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How many miles did it take you to kill that tranny?
That tranny has 120,000 miles on it, with probably a lot of abuse from the police.
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Bill-Awesome vid looks like I missed out on some fun

Tom-Your crazy I'd never be able to do something like that.

Brian-Glad to hear your feeling better.
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Bill, good job on that vid, the shaky cam is a good metric for measuring torque



I suck at video, check out my clips of the cutouts http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...3B18FCAC3EF481 I think it's time for a new setup, my digital camera is 2 megapixel for photo, and video is 12 seconds at 320x res, or 30 sec at 160x res... and if I want to go for the gold I can expect about 3 seconds in 640x480
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper View Post
I took this piece of crap out this morning:
Dang, it sure was dirty.



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Would you guys even consider this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUSTA...16394946QQrdZ1

Ford Racing offers no warranty, and this place has a 12-month unlimited warranty. Also, all transmission are dyno-tested.

Is that $300 back from the $775?? That's only $475... $900 less than one from Summit!
Pass. I wouldn't even consider buying a refurb'd printer or iPod, let alone a complete transmission.
All of Ford Racing stuff doesn't have a warranty, not just the tranny's.

Since the 89 is your new money pit, may as well pull the trigger on a new one.



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Bill-Awesome vid looks like I missed out on some fun
Yeah, you missed out! When you come up in the next week or two, stop by for a ride. I gotta warn you though, the 3.73's or 4.10's will get bumped up on your future mods list.



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Bill, good job on that vid, the shaky cam is a good metric for measuring torque

I suck at video, check out my clips of the cutouts
Thanks Ben.

I saw the vids. I expected the cutouts to be alot louder, must be the cats. Still, not too bad of a mod for the price. Just have to watch those bumps in the road.
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I saw the vids. I expected the cutouts to be alot louder, must be the cats. Still, not too bad of a mod for the price. Just have to watch those bumps in the road.
The mic on my camera really didn't pick up the sound volume. The exhaust is really loud, more so than the stingers were.

I'm going to put in some heat shielding and point them further upward. I just hope those stupid U-clamps didn't pinch the pipes too much to rotate them. I'm looking at this stuff to put around the surrounding areas http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...429+115+310691
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Almost forgot to mention, I layed down 2 coats of Z-2 Pro w/ZFX this afternoon. It was alot of work out in the sun, but I got it done!

Now I'm good to go for the rest of the year. I'll only need to spritz it with some Z-6 Detail Spray before the upcoming shows.
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