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Old 12/31/11, 06:25 AM
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Same to you. I am really hoping that 2012 is TONS better for me than 2011 was.

So here is to a new year
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Old 12/31/11, 06:26 AM
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Same to you. I am really hoping that 2012 is TONS better for me than 2011 was.

So here is to a new year
Me too thinking positive!
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Old 12/31/11, 06:31 AM
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Me too thinking positive!
Oh I am thinking positive, praying, begging and really hoping wishing that it is.
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Old 12/31/11, 09:21 AM
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You have GOT to be kidding. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!! I am bored out of my mind and there is nobody here to entertain me.
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Old 12/31/11, 09:26 AM
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I'm here!
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Old 12/31/11, 09:30 AM
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So how many hours you got till it hits midnite? I got 3 hours
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Old 12/31/11, 09:39 AM
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It's only 11:38am here, so still got a little over 12 hours to go.
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Old 12/31/11, 10:01 AM
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Oh thats right. I keep forgetting how big of time difference it is from here to there.
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Said the guy from Tennessee!
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Old 12/31/11, 11:01 AM
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Heppy new years eve TMSers. Hey Lorrie, Missed ya babe.
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Happy new years eve TMSers
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i'll be happy to just live to 77
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OK - question for public safety experts. Are any of these portable breathalyzers good? Any specific brands or sites to recommend?
Really? No love?

Looking at this one because it has a replaceable sensor - rather than mailing it in to be re-calibrated every 6 mos. For me, I'd just like to use it a few times to know what 1 or 2 beers does and how long it takes to safely be under .08. (I only drink whisky at home with the keys on the hook)

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Found this that shows how fussy the 'official' machine is:


The Seven Secrets of the Intoxilyzer 8000
(What the Police Don't Want You to Know)
By Tom Hudson
Secret No. 1. The Intoxilyzer 8000 is the official breath test instrument of the State of Florida. The police will tell you that it is "tried and true." However, in the computer age, "tried and true" translates into "obsolete." The Intoxilyzer 8000 is based upon the Zilog Z-80 microprocessor. This same chip was the brains of the Tandy TRS-80, which was the hit of the home computer industry.....in 1977!
Secret No. 2. When the Intoxilyzer is calibrated, if the temperature of the testing solution is off by as little as one-fifth of one degree (.20), the calibration is not considered accurate. Human body temperatures may vary as much as three full degrees-- depending on health, physical activity or even the hour of the day! If you have a slight fever and your body temperature is elevated by only 1 degree Centigrade (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit), your apparent blood alcohol will be artificially inflated by approximately seven percent. (Isn't it interesting how these errors always work against you and never for you?)
Secret No. 3. The underlying physical principle of the Intoxilyzer is known as "Henry's Law," which states that the concentration of a volatile chemical in vapor above a solution is proportional to the concentration of the chemical in the solution. This is true in the laboratory, but in humans, the proportions can vary by as much as 50%. This means that the Intoxilyzer can overstate your blood alcohol by as much as 50%! As Drs. Stefan Rose and Kenneth Furton have written, "Henry's Law does not apply in the lungs. In order for Henry's Law to apply, three conditions must be met. One, the solution must be in a closed system, like a sealed bottle. The lungs are open, not closed. Two, the solution must be kept at a known, constant temperature. The lung temperature is never known, and the temperature is always changing. And three, the pressure must be kept constant. The lungs are always changing pressure, decreasing pressure to inhale and increasing pressure to exhale. Without all three conditions present, it is not possible for equilibrium to occur, and Henry's Law does not apply."
Secret No. 4. The Intoxilyzer 8000 operates on a principle known as the "Lambert-Beer Law," which states that the amount of infrared light absorbed by your breath is proportional to the amount of alcohol in the sample. Think of it like the way in which fog will block your car's headlights on a damp night. In short, the more alcohol there is, the less infrared light that gets through the chamber to the detector. However, there are other compounds, called "interferents," which can also block the infrared. And the Intoxilyzer cannot reliably tell them all apart!!
Secret No. 5. Three or four deep breaths before blowing into the Intoxilyzer will cool your lungs and fill them with fresh air. This sort of hyperventilation may lower your breath alcohol by as much as 55%, without violating the protocols of the test. For more information, see this article on the 3/2 Rule.
Secret No. 6. The protocol for the Intoxilyzer 8000 in Florida requires only that you blow 1.1 liters of breath. The average adult has a "vital capacity" (the amount he or she can forcibly exhale in one breath) of between three and four liters. The police will urge you to keep blowing your entire breath into the machine. However, such a long breath will artificially increase the apparent amount of alcohol in your breath by skewing the sample toward your "deep lung air," where the alcohol is more highly concentrated. If you only blow half of your breath, you will give an adequate sample, which will be up to 30% less than the sample that the police want you to give.
Secret No. 7.
- New!- The Intoxilyzer 8000 measures how much breath you provide by something called a 'pressure transducer.' Instead of directly measuring the volume of your breath by a pressure switch, like the old Intoxilyzer 5000 did, the 8000 indirectly measures breath. Not only is it needlessly complicated, it simply doesn't work! The flow sensor systems in Florida's Intoxilyzer 8000's are so unreliable that FDLE ordered that police STOP KEEPING RECORDS of the system in monthly checks. In 2011, a system-wide check showed that 40% of the machines in Florida couldn't accurately measure breath volume! And on a machine whose pressure transducer was not properly calibrated, the machine was three to five times more likely to deliver an alcohol reading over .25. Sad.

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Really? No love?
Idk anything about them. I just pick up drunks when they've fallen and busted their tail in some form or fashion.
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Really? No love?
I have a cheap-o one around here somewhere. I'll have to find it and do a test!
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Amie - you're going to participate and get us some up close shots right?

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Idk anything about them. I just pick up drunks when they've fallen and busted their tail in some form or fashion.
lol Well unfortunately that's how Oregon seems to be - get you after the fact rather than provide tools to be safe after having a glass of wine or beer with dinner & friends. Frustrating. Money generator. Or the police state really is here and wants to keep everyone in their homes too afraid to go out in public.
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Originally Posted by cdynaco View Post
Really? No love?

Looking at this one because it has a replaceable sensor - rather than mailing it in to be re-calibrated every 6 mos. For me, I'd just like to use it a few times to know what 1 or 2 beers does and how long it takes to safely be under .08. (I only drink whisky at home with the keys on the hook)
I really don't have any experience with them other than a couple that have popped up at get togethers, which ultimately lead to using it as a contest to see who could blow the highest number and still be walking and coherent.

Target has quite a few...

http://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=breathalyzer&category=0|All|matchalla ny|all+categories


Maybe read some reviews of various ones on Amazon to get some feedback.

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Old 12/31/11, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Amie - you're going to participate and get us some up close shots right?

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Could be a possibility! Only a little less than two hours south of me. And then I can go to some theme park or something. I'd go to Islands of Adventure but I'm usually forced on Dr. Doom and I always fear for my life.

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lol Well unfortunately that's how Oregon seems to be - get you after the fact rather than provide tools to be safe after having a glass of wine or beer with dinner & friends. Frustrating. Money generator. Or the police state really is here and wants to keep everyone in their homes too afraid to go out in public.
I went out last night and my Russian friend, Alina, is a cop. We had the city cops messing with us all night. It was pretty funny. I don't remember much after that... It gets a lil fuzzy... Lol some cops are cool. Not all for sure.
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