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Old 4/14/19, 04:37 PM
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If the money was going to be used to build the wall, I'd been happy to send it in. Instead, it will probably get spent to house some illegal and pay for their college.
yeah probably, since Trump said Mexico was
paying for his Wall "100%."

....3 years ago...
heres my refund,
which is pretty good since i dont have an actual income right now,
but our taxes go for things like health care,
not golf trips to Florida, you know how it is...
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Old 4/14/19, 05:30 PM
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In spite of both my wife and I claiming married and zero on our W-2's, I just sent enough money to the IRS to supercharge a Mustang.
I pretty much keep it as close to zero. I don't like giving my money interest free to the government! I too had to pay in this year but not nearly that much thank goodness!
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Old 4/14/19, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravydog316 View Post
yeah probably, since Trump said Mexico was
paying for his Wall "100%."

....3 years ago...
heres my refund,
which is pretty good since i dont have an actual income right now,
but our taxes go for things like health care,
not golf trips to Florida, you know how it is...
First, I never thought Mexico was paying for the wall.

A refund is money returned to you for overpayment. You just got a handout. Enjoy while you can. I have never understood how anyone can get back more than the put in. If I paid 10K in taxes and got 15K back, I didn't receive a refund, I received a 5K handout.
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Old 4/14/19, 07:46 PM
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First, I never thought Mexico was paying for the wall.

A refund is money returned to you for overpayment. You just got a handout. Enjoy while you can. I have never understood how anyone can get back more than the put in. If I paid 10K in taxes and got 15K back, I didn't receive a refund, I received a 5K handout.
but, President Trump said (multiple times, & for the last (almost) 3 years,)
that Mexico would pay for it "100%"
& 100% is a pretty huge number,
so why you wouldn't believe him,
i dunno.

since i intern & don't pay, it's literally impossible for me so have overpaid,
i'm sure numbers are very hard for you.
there are 10 of them, after all.

& speaking of hard, i heard you have to get use your fingers & toes to get to 20,
& get naked to get to 21, but that's only a rumour.
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Old 4/14/19, 07:52 PM
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so:
- I didn't pay income tax,
- i get my health care paid for,
- my union dues, deductions, taxes, EI, etc. etc. all taken care of
- i got a refund
- you worked all year & have to pay more,

& you:
- no refund
- no wall
- no 'free' healthcare
- & you (maybe) have to pay extra

...ok...
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Old 4/15/19, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gravydog316 View Post
but, President Trump said (multiple times, & for the last (almost) 3 years,)
that Mexico would pay for it "100%"
& 100% is a pretty huge number,
so why you wouldn't believe him,
i dunno.

since i intern & don't pay, it's literally impossible for me so have overpaid,
i'm sure numbers are very hard for you.
there are 10 of them, after all.

& speaking of hard, i heard you have to get use your fingers & toes to get to 20,
& get naked to get to 21, but that's only a rumour.
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so:
- I didn't pay income tax,
- i get my health care paid for,
- my union dues, deductions, taxes, EI, etc. etc. all taken care of
- i got a refund
- you worked all year & have to pay more,

& you:
- no refund
- no wall
- no 'free' healthcare
- & you (maybe) have to pay extra

...ok...
It doesn't matter how many times he said Mexico would pay - I never believed it. No one I personally know ever did either.

No matter how you spin it, you did not get a refund., you got a government hand out that someone else paid for, along with your healthcare.

The wall is being built.

I can count one higher than you.
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I can count one higher than you.
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Old 4/15/19, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SpectreH
It doesn't matter how many times he said Mexico would pay - I never believed it. No one I personally know ever did either.

No matter how you spin it, you did not get a refund., you got a government hand out that someone else paid for, along with your healthcare.

The wall is being built.

I can count one higher than you.
Trump got "elected" on the promise of a Wall;
& how's MAGA going with tariffs on imports,
& you pay more to the government
& pay for your healthcare?
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Old 4/16/19, 06:55 AM
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Trump got "elected" on the promise of a Wall;
& how's MAGA going with tariffs on imports,
& you pay more to the government
& pay for your healthcare?
Trump wasn;t "elected", he was elected and won in spite of all of the media bias against him. Tariffs have forced countries to negotiate, and and several cases, America came out ahead. I've experienced no price increases on the good I purchase.

My overall tax rate has declined, in spite of the fact that I still feel I pay too much.

I have ALWAYS paid for my healthcare, once I became an adult. I always should. Healthcare is not a right protected by the US Constitution. In fact, if our ******* politicians would actually govern by it, my tax rate would be so low, it would feel like my health care was free.

Fun fact - the constitution does not grant me my rights. They are endowed on me by my creator. What the contiution does do is restrict government power so that my rights are protected. Of course the idea of a creator bothers you. I will always believe that science and a belief in God can coexist. The very nature of the intricate order and complexity of the universe strengthens my belief. I will never be convinced it was some cosmic accident.
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Trump wasn;t "elected", he was elected and won in spite of all of the media bias against him. Tariffs have forced countries to negotiate, and and several cases, America came out ahead. I've experienced no price increases on the good I purchase.

My overall tax rate has declined, in spite of the fact that I still feel I pay too much.

I have ALWAYS paid for my healthcare, once I became an adult. I always should. Healthcare is not a right protected by the US Constitution. In fact, if our ******* politicians would actually govern by it, my tax rate would be so low, it would feel like my health care was free.

Fun fact - the constitution does not grant me my rights. They are endowed on me by my creator. What the contiution does do is restrict government power so that my rights are protected. Of course the idea of a creator bothers you. I will always believe that science and a belief in God can coexist. The very nature of the intricate order and complexity of the universe strengthens my belief. I will never be convinced it was some cosmic accident.
Anarchist.
Science doesn't exist,
& God works in mysterious ways.
Don't you watch Fox News?!
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Anarchist.
Science doesn't exist,
& God works in mysterious ways.
Don't you watch Fox News?!
Wanting limited government isn't anarchy, it is actually what the founders wanted.
Science has taught us a lot, but isn't always right. Flat earth, center of the universe, headed for an ice age (in the 1970's),... the list goes on. Science is done by vigorous research and not simply by social media consensus. And real science is will to admit when it is wrong.
God does work in mysterious ways.
I do not watch Fox News, but I occassionally visit their webpage, along with CNN's.
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