4x4xFord

Do you have any idea what would have happened if the homeowners hadn't been armed? No. Your statement is useless.

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SpectreH

Too many looting and riots for a rational person to assume nothing would happen. And those people were trespassing, which is a crime.

4x4xFord

Trespassing, destruction of private property, menacing with weapons...

Hey sheepdog - what would happen if a mob marched down St. Catherine Street breaking shop windows and destroying the facades around the street? Would someone try to stop them? Would the police be called? Or would that outdoor space be destroyed?

SpectreH

So, people who break in and damage property are peaceful? Because that is the question that was posed to you.

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Bert

so, trying again: if people were burning cars, threatening people, and looting on St. Catherine street; would you call them "peaceful" ?

and do you think the property and people who would be threatened in that scenario, should be defended from those threats?

4x4xFord

She can't read the question because it forces thought that is outside her comfort zone.

I'll go ahead and say that anyone that comes to my home, breaks down a door or gate, brandishes a weapon and threatens myself or my family will NOT be considered peaceful, or treated peacefully....

SpectreH

She can't comprehend that breaking into a gated community in itself was wrong. The homeowner has no way to know the intent of the trespassers. They've already breached a gate, what is next? Are they here for my stuff, or are the headed to the neighbor's house. Are the armed? Some are carrying clubs...what else do they have? I wonder how fast the police can get here? Should I call 911 and hope for the best? Should I step outside, armed, and let these people know that my house will not be a target?

Gravy says wait on the police....and in another post tells me that the police go around murdering innocent people.

SpectreH

There is nothing peaceful about breaking the gate down to a gated, private community. The media never shows the half of the gate that was torn down. If you have a gate around your yard, but don't lock it, does that give me the right to be there?

Cops kill more white people each year than blacks. No one cares about that though.

For the years 2017 through 2020, here is the breakdown of people shot by the police, by race:

White: 1430
Black: 772
Hispanic: 551
Other: 134
Unknown (race not given): 606

So, even if you falsely assumed all of the unknowns there were black, they still would have shot more whites.

SpectreH

Well, when lawless liberals are rioting, you have to put up barriers. When terrorists attacked in 2001, barricades went up. Before you blame Trump, Obama was in office when Antifa and BLM were formed.

SpectreH

The terrorists died in the attacks. Although I do not like our close ties to the Saudis.

SpectreH

I am an American, who generally sides with conservatives, but not always. Remember those republicans who profited in the stock market using knowledge of the pending shutdown? That was unethical, immoral, and possibly illegal. Want to know why people like you let it drop? The names of democrats who did the same thing came out.

Bert

funny thing about Republicans -- they tend to think for themselves; they don't always follow the party line like the Democrats do

SpectreH

But you did let it drop. You brought it up several times to point out the corrupt old white guys of the GOP with no mention of the DNC crooks. I called you out each time and then you say all the guilty should be punished. You never brought up the dems on your own.

SpectreH

You think only Republicans are anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers? There is stupid on both sides of the aisle.

4x4xFord

Fixed it for you....

Bert

gotta agree with you on that one; whenever I see those I have to wonder "what kind of an a-hole would put those things on their truck? what are they thinking?"

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Mustang Freak